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joy
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default font vs. selected font - 4/18/2001 23:06:00
I'm using fp 2000, and I was wondering what happens if you select a font rather than using the "default font" and someone with another browser, etc doesn't have the font you've used? Does it automatically revert to a default font, or do they just see a messed up page? Thanks in advance... ![]("http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/ubb/smile.gif")
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weblore
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/18/2001 23:30:00
If they don't have the font you specify, it'll show the default font their browser is set for.It's good to stick to the basic fonts for text and use special fonts in graphics. Lore ------------------
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joy
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/18/2001 23:37:00
Thanks for the info. One more question: Some sites say that "comic sans" is an ok font to use, other say stick to times or arial. What's your opinion on that?
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abbeyvet
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/19/2001 20:40:00
Times New Roman (though it is not the easiest to read on a screen), Ariel, Verdana and Helvetica for the Mac people.Comic Sans is on a lot of Windows machines but not, I believe, on many Macs. It is a pity that FP does not insert alternatives - ie Verdana, Helvetica, San-Serif - but it doesn't. The best way around it is to use CSS and then you can specify whatever one you like as your first choice and then a number of alternatives. In any case the use of the <font> tag is being deprecated and will be phased out - though it will continue to be recognised by browsers for some time. So your style sheet might show:
H1 {Comic Sans; Verdana; Helvetica; San Serif;}
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and the user would see Heading 1 in the first available font on their computer.
If you are using anything a bit off standard it is as well to check how things look with the more usual fonts also.
My own personal opinion is that if anyone notices your font it is a bad thing - people are there, in general, to read text - or at least that is what you hope they will do! - and causing them to be in anyway distractd from that endevour removes the focus from your content. Fonts should be 'invisible', what the text says is the thing. Just my own view. ------------------
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joy
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/19/2001 20:22:00
OK, possibly silly question, but what is CSS?
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abbeyvet
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/19/2001 21:14:00
Cascading Style Sheets.Basically a means of formatting all the pages in the site to acheive a uniform appearance. It means you no longer have to apply style to elements on a page 'as you go'. I wrote a bit of a tutorial on the subject a while back which will tell you more: http://www.outfront.net/articles/css1.htm ------------------
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joy
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/19/2001 21:34:00
Thank you - reading that was very helpful. A few more questions:
If I only want to specify the font type, not color or size, can I just put something like this in the <head> section?...<style type="text/css">
H1{font-family: "Verdana", "Helvetica", "sans-serif"}
</style> What happens if I want the font type to be applied to normal font as well as bulleted lists, etc? From what I can see, there doesn't appear to be any sort of html "name" (like H1, H2) for normal font. Also, do you know of any way for me to see what my pages look like in other browsers?
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joy
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/21/2001 20:30:00
AAAAAHHHHHH!!! Maybe I didn't want to see those other browser views after all...I think I need to start a new topic for that one! Thank you, Brian for the additional references. I do, of course, have more questions: It sounds like I can just put the font code in the <head> section of a page rather than creating a whole style sheet. Am I understanding that correctly? The one thing I still haven't been able to find in any of the tutors (or figure out on my own) is how I lable the code if I want to apply the font type to "normal" text rather than H1, etc. I've tried this and it doesn't work: <style type="text/css">
normal{font-family: "Verdana", "Helvetica", "sans-serif"; color: red; font-weight: bold;}
</style> I've also tried putting nothing where the word "normal" is, and that didn't work either. Any additional tips would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you!!
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abbeyvet
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/21/2001 20:42:00
Put 'body' where normal is.------------------
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joy
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RE: default font vs. selected font - 4/22/2001 19:24:00
THANK YOU!!
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