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Daisy

 

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OK, here goes....... - 11/20/2002 20:48:49   
Would you mind reviewing my website http://www.danadesigngroup.com

Initially, it was just a web design site but I added a new index page and included my portrait and furniture work.

Any suggestions will be welcome.

Also, PLEASE give me some ideas to enable the site to appear in search engines. I did a search for ' dana' and got to page 12 before I gave up.

Thanks,
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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/20/2002 21:44:19   
Ok, I have some... 1) On your Hand Painted Furniture page, the See Next Page link doesn' t work. 2) Your logo that says dana design group. The shadow of the P is cut off, so I would suggest redoing the so it isn' t cause that doesn' t make it look professional and you won' t get many customers for your professional site design thing, I say this because most customers look for the quality of your past work, and what your site looks like. 3) I love your pictures and funiture, I showed my wife she said she may call you, you are one heck of an artist!

Oh also, on most search engines it cost money or it takes a while to get on, but here are some good search engines.

www.xupiter.com
www.alltheweb.com
www.google.com
www.iwon.com (It is true)
www.webcrawler.com

If you need more tell me. Those are most used.

< Message edited by scarednewbie -- 11/20/2002 7:48:34 PM >


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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/20/2002 22:32:26   
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Also, PLEASE give me some ideas to enable the site to appear in search engines


Add some CONTENT to the index page - there' s not much there except links to other pages.

Add the required ALT attributes to the images.

Add a KEYWORD meta tag.

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Daisy

 

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/20/2002 22:54:33   
Thanks, scarednewbie, I have that list but what I was looking for is the magic words in meta tags--I' m just getting the hang of them.

Gil, I' ll review and take your advice on the content.

As for the ALT attribute? I' m sorry but I don' t understand that. What is an ALT attribute and why does it need to be attached to images?

And the keyword should be what? A definition of what' s on the page? I did see some advice on meta tags in another column (catching up) and ~thought~ it said to add meta tags, keywords to every page. Is that true?

sigh. I took all of those classes and meta tags were never mentioned once! :)

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/20/2002 22:57:47   
Oh, and scarednewbie, thanks for the compliment! Makes my heart glad. :)

Daisy

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/20/2002 23:43:43   
*hugs* they are really good. They kid sitting on the floor dressed in blue with the book looks just like me when I was a kid. Also, do you know javascript, if you don' t you can find it on OutFront somewhere but here are some things I look at on sites.
-Quality
-Texture
-What They Say
Also, survey says that most people go for Best Looking Sites, and those are usually black, blue, orange, read, and yellow colored websites. So here is what would be pretty good, Turn your site to a black Backround. Change the colors around, cause the impression you are showing me is you are trying Way To Hard. You can tell if people suck at making sites, if they are just learning, if they try way to hard and you can tell, or are just outstanding, and you are trying to hard, if you try hard, you better do it your best and don' t care about time. Also, you should do rollover images for your links, such as your web design part, you have all those links and it gets confusing. If you need any help with Rollover Images and things like that I will explain it and I am positive that the moderators will put in a great share to. I think Abbeybavet or whateva her name is is the person to goto. :)

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/22/2002 11:27:17   
Hey Daisy

The " ALT" attribute is alternate text for your images. When you place your mouse over the image, a description of the image is displayed.

Right click on an image in your site, select picture properties from the menu. There is a box for the alternate text. Save the page, open it in the browser and when you move your mouse over the image, you should see the text that you entered.

Hope this helps!
Swirl

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Daisy

 

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/22/2002 11:44:25   
Oh, you guys are beautiful. Thanks so much! I' ll get on this today and try to finish it. Never mind, it will *never* be finished. :)

Love you all for your help and suggestions. Any and all additional suggestions are welcome!

Daisy

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/22/2002 21:23:28   
Hi Daisy,
Welcome to the Forums! :)

Not too much I can add as to your site. Looked good to me, loaded fast, easy to follow.

As to search engines, there have been numerous discussions here about them:

(1) At the top of this page click " Search" , then click " Forum"

(2) Next to Search Term enter " Search Engines"

(3) Search in Forum click " Search all forums"

(4) Time Filter click " 1 Year"

(5) Click " OK"

You' ll get a group of responses with discussions on the subject. Also search " Meta tags" .

Hope this helps

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/22/2002 22:39:11   
Hi, Daisy,

It looks really nice, and with some tweaking here and there, it will really shine!

One suggestion is to have your left navigation the same on all your pages within a particular category. It' s mildy irritating to have to go back to the previous page to pick my next page choice. I' d have all the pages listed there instead of Welcome and Up (this is within the website design pages...I don' t mean every single page on the site should be listed on every single page..do I make sense here?)

Consider making your round (ddg) logo a hyperlink to the main page; most people expect that to link home. You should re-do that one as well as the shadow one that Newbie mentioned, as it is jagged looking. Maybe you need to do it with antialias chosen?

One link doesn' t work; the table and chairs where you are supposed to click on the chair for details...I get a file not found.

I would edit the rocking chair picture in your graphics program to eliminate the date showing up by the leg.

Some of your pages have Times New Roman font, my suggestion is changing it to Arial or Verdana as they are easier on the eyes than times.

BTW...BEAUTIFUL art work. Painted furniture isn' t my thing, but boy, oh boy, those watercolors are gorgeous!

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Daisy

 

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/29/2002 13:29:01   
Thank you again for all of your great suggestions! ' Tis amazing what another pair of eyes can see.

I dug out my FP2000 Bible and will get to work on meta tags, my ALTs and the errors in my site.

BTW, I used to " live" here under another name, " harpo" , a year ago and I' m glad to be back. You' ve all taught me so much! I' ve learned more here than I did in two semesters of FP.

Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving.
Daisy
:)


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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/29/2002 21:37:14   
I don' t know what changes you have made but I have to say this - your pages are now loading extremely fast compared to the last time I checked them out. Good Job!:)

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/30/2002 13:04:43   
I didn' t review all of the other critiques before posting this, there will probably be repeats, I apologize for that.

As far as overall look it' s very nice.

Dito regarding the main logo (drop shadow on the " p" ).

The smaller oval ddg logo also looks just a bit off-center, could the letters possibly be moved just a smidge to the right? It may just be because of the drop shadow allowance...sometimes it' s hard to tell except when you' re actually designing it I know.

On the home page it appears your list of keywords is tacked onto the " Generator" meta tag...at least I didn' t see a " keywords" meta tag, maybe I just missed it.

I was wondering why you don' t have the same menu options on each page. Have you considered for easy consistency trying a menu bar with submenu or something like that so the same menu can be on each page for easier access throughout the site to whatever page the person might want to look at?

If you do keep the same menu format, on the sub-pages where the link states " up" you may want to change that to something different, at first glance I thought it may have been a " continuous" page and that I could just scroll back to the top and browse through the info. when it was actually a " back to previous page" type link.

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Daisy

 

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RE: OK, here goes.......Need MORE help! - 11/30/2002 14:55:05   
argh! rsweb, you' re exactly right!!

I' ve yet to correct the dropped shadow on the mid-page title and I really need to clean up the logo. Thanks.

As for the Generator tags, I was told by my " old" instuctor to place my keywords there. I' ve since learned from reading msgs here that I need to designate " keyword" with the tags there instead.

The menu options? I' ve tried over and over to get all of the page titles to load on every page. It used to be that way and then some gremlin got in there and deleted. Don' t ask. :)

I can' t figure out how to have each page title on every page. Please, any suggestions will be appreciated. I hate the way it is now and I usually go elsewhere when I have to keep going back to the bloody last page!



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RE: OK, here goes.......Need MORE help! - 11/30/2002 16:57:22   
I usually just pick whatever menu I want and cut/paste it into each page where it is suppose to be.

I' ve recently purchased a menu program that works nice. It saves as separate files, so as long as it' s pasted on each page, if there' s a change, you change it once and then it changes for each page...like changing an image file would do.

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 11/30/2002 23:57:55   
Well, folks, I got all of the links fixed, put in the ALT tags, entered keywords and cleaned up a bunch of other things...finally. I' m also working on linking the ddg logo to the main page.

The only thing that I didn' t do was put the shared borders in the web design section (other than the first page). argh. Just couldn' t get it. Rho, thanks so much for your help. The cut & paste just wouldn' t work for me....and, I spent SO MUCH time on it.

At this point, I' m not sure if it' s the " navigation" or " shared borders" that I should be dealing with. I' m begging.........:)

Thanks again, everyone, for all of your help.

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 12/1/2002 0:45:15   
hey Daisy

Easy to follow site. I just took a quick look. One of you links to the furniture pic has a great view of the pourch but no funiture:) because the size of the pic an it may be right justified

the link is
http://www.danadesigngroup.com/images/Chair%20w%20woven%20seat-front.JPG

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RE: OK, here goes....... - 12/1/2002 10:44:42   
I don' t know if it work properly in your situation but if you' d be interested in checking out the menu software I got it' s Xara Menu Maker at xara.com. There' s a trial download and it was pretty reasonably priced compared to another program I was looking at. It might be worth checking out.



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RE: OK, here goes....... - 12/1/2002 11:03:57   
Hi, Barry,
Now that' s odd. When I went to your link and when I pulled the page and enlargement up in another window, it was fine. No problem. Hmmmm.

Rho, thanks! I' ll take a look at this.



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