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_gail

 

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Server/related questions - 12/11/2002 7:42:00   
I' m not familiar with a lot of terms that were in responses to me in another thread. I suppose for most the meanings are pretty basic but not for me, though I do get the gist of one or two of them.

Hope someone can enlighten me.


What' s a server error; what/who causes them?

What does it mean when a server times out?

What are server extensions? Are they different than FrontPage extensions?

What' s recalculating a web?

What' s recalculating hyperlinks (can do this via FrontPage)?


thanks, gail

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RE: Server/related questions - 12/11/2002 10:44:49   
I' m not an expert, but I' ll give it a shot... forgive me if I' m wrong (yes, it does happen from time to time... :))


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What' s a server error; what/who causes them?

Any error on the server... like an error on your computer. A missing file, overload, bad script, etc. Not usually something that a website user can cause without intending to do so...

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What does it mean when a server times out?

Technically I' m not sure what it means exactly... but basically your connection to the server is severed... like getting booted from your dialup connection...

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What are server extensions? Are they different than FrontPage extensions?

When talking about it here, 99% of the time, same diff

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What' s recalculating a web?

no idea...

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What' s recalculating hyperlinks (can do this via FrontPage)?

It is a Front Page function... basically FP goes thru your site and checks all the <a> tags to make sure they are pointing at valid targets... I think.

I' m not 100% clear on some of the above, so I' m eager to read corrections where I' m wrong...

:)

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RE: Server/related questions - 12/11/2002 10:52:46   
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What' s recalculating a web?

I suspect that it' s intended to be the same as " recalculating hyperlinks" . When you use the function in FP it also updates other things like getting rid of unused theme info and updating the FP component data on the server. (So says FP Help:))

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RE: Server/related questions - 12/11/2002 12:39:30   
1/ What' s a server error; what/who causes them?

A " 501 Internal Server Error" is a general internal server error. Your web browser is making a request of the web server, like " please show me this page" or " I' ve pushed this send button, please execute this script" or a similar request.

A " 501 Internal Server Error" is the server saying " I' m sorry, I tried to do what you want, and I for some reason, I can' t."

This can mean a script is incorrectly configured, or the server hasn' t found something it needs.

Again, it' s a very vague, general error message. It' s quite different from a " 404 Page Not Found" message, which at least tells you the specific problem -- the web server cannot find the page requested.

What does it mean when a server times out?

Again, we have the scenario where your browser is making a request of the server -- show me a page, execute this script, return this database information. Because a server will be managing huge numbers of requests all at the same time, it will have a " time out" setting for various functions. It may dedicated 30 seconds to trying to send your email, or 90 seconds to trying to fill your database request.

After that, it gives up on what you asked for, dumps your request and deals with other pending requests.

What are server extensions? Are they different than FrontPage extensions?

Server extensions are installed on a server to support something specific with it' s own special web server bits. Normally, extensions are part of a development environment -- like FrontPage. However, there can be other kinds of server extensions, like ColdFusion.

So, FrontPage extensions are a kind of server extension. Because this site is mainly FP, we tend to just refer to " server extensions" and assume everyone is talking about FrontPage ones.

What' s recalculating a web?

See below.

What' s recalculating hyperlinks (can do this via FrontPage)?

FrontPage has a feature that will let you recalculate the hyperlinks in a web. That means that it will look at your FP web and update some of it' s paths if it' s got it' s knickers in a twist.

If you FTP a web up to a server, for example, it may not recognise changed paths for webbots like page counters; recalculating the links live on the server will fix that.

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_gail

 

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RE: Server/related questions - 12/11/2002 13:04:16   

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ORIGINAL: DarlingBri

1/ What' s a server error; what/who causes them?

A " 501 Internal Server Error" is a general internal server error. Your web browser is making a request of the web server,


I failed to make myself clear but in this case the error appeared when I was publishing changes to be website via FrontPage from my hard drive. I assume the principle is the same.


What' s recalculating hyperlinks (can do this via FrontPage)?

recalculating the links live on the server will fix that.


I see, so the trick is doing this live.


Thanks all! gail


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DarlingBri

 

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RE: Server/related questions - 12/11/2002 13:32:44   
Ah. Well, here' s a completely useless piece of knowledge:

FrontPage publishing is based on HTTP -- the same protocol as your browser. So, you can basically replace the word " browser" with your publishing function in the above.

If you got a little dialogue box pop up and say " Internal Server Error. The server has timed out" or similar, it just means the server was handling too many requests or ran out of time trying to find something to fill your request at the time you made it.

The most frequent scenario under which that happens for me is that I' m connecting to a webserver to publish, and some bright spark on the other end decides this is a good time to reboot the box. My request will fail, the server will reboot in 30 seconds, I' ll try again and it will work.

Hope you did get everything published in the end, though!

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