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Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/16/2002 14:55:08
Hi All, I' ve been working on this site and finally got it finished. I' d appreciate any comments, suggestions, etc. One thing, there are two blank cells in the " Propertly Listings" page...that' s because I' m waiting for one more pic and listing to put in there. I' m really pleased with how this turned out and am anxious to hear the opinions of you guys. Thanks! http://www.lakewallenpaupackproperties.com Pepper
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/16/2002 15:34:38
Pepper, I' d have to agree with Seventh. I like everything but the spacing of everything on the page. There is plenty of room to condense things and sharpen it up.
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/16/2002 17:32:25
Peppergal, Here' s my two cents. I like the site and I really like the colors. However there seems to be no focal point on several of the pages. When I arrive at the home page I don' t know where to look first. I would try to minimize the look of so many boxes on some of the pages. Here are a few suggestions: The links could possibly be placed at the top of pages where people customarily expect them. I' d also consider putting the " Come to the beautiful Pocono Mountains!" (which they are) beneath rather than above the photo montage. It' s too close to the header text, imho. In fact, I' d see how this area looks without the box; let it rest on the light blue background. I think this might simplify things a bit. On the Property Listings page I' d try to put the picture of the house in the same box as the text, rather than have the light blue background between them. I think things would be much more coherent. Does the red house midway down this page go with the box to it' s right " Walk to Lake Wallenpaupack..." OR is it $52,5000 and situated on 13 acres? Most realtor listings place copy under a photo of a house not to the side of it. It' s certainly fine on the side but it should be easier to define and associate text with picture. I' d also like to see the name of the company stand out more, perhaps with a drop shadow; or perhaps a hairline, .5 or one point outline. I know I' ve suggested reducing or subduing some of the outlines, however this would make the name stand out better. As is taught in realtor school " Location, Location, Location." As is taught in marketing (and political) school, " Name Recognition, Name Recognition, Name Recognition." gail
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/17/2002 10:15:38
Hi Seventh and bnavis...I don' t see HOW to condense it more (without making the top graphics smaller) and keep it from looking " crammed" or by using tiny print...as it is I' m using size 2. From a customer' s point of view, that is the easiest to read. One thing I really personally dislike is a " lot of stuff" crammed into the smallest amount of space possible with tiny print. A site like the Template one posted here a few days ago (you know the marketing one? heh heh) gives me a headache. Could this perhaps be more of a personal preference rather than a design flaw? I also tried to word it such that there were several keywords in the text. The R and MLS graphics really need to be there. I tried making them smaller and they looked [:' (]
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/17/2002 10:32:32
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I' d also consider putting the " Come to the beautiful Pocono Mountains!" (which they are) beneath rather than above the photo montage. It' s too close to the header text, imho. I agree...and I changed it. I' ll have to think about making it the same color as the larger cell background though, because I' d have to rework the entire thing. Some peopel can do that in a snap, it would take me an hour or two...[:p] quote:
On the Property Listings page I' d try to put the picture of the house in the same box as the text, rather than have the light blue background between them. I think things would be much more coherent. Does the red house midway down this page go with the box to it' s right " Walk to Lake Wallenpaupack..." OR is it $52,5000 and situated on 13 acres? I fixed that, too, (thanks!) by adding a divider with the text " Property For Sale" to keep those three seperate from the one above it. I can see where that might confuse... quote:
Most realtor listings place copy under a photo of a house not to the side of it Ah, but that' s the thing...we want this site to look DIFFERENT than all the other sites that basically shout the same thing...Ann likes the side by side layout as opposed to pic above text... I think the main problem was with the property for sale under the house pic.
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/17/2002 16:11:28
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ORIGINAL: Peppergal Oh, btw...even though you didn' t mention the " boxes" on this page http://WWW/aboutarea.htm I eliminated some of them anyhow. Does this look cleaner? Peppergal, I didn' t peek at all the pages but, yes, I do like the overall cleaner look of it compared to how the others originally appeared! How about trying one more thing to see how it looks. Unbold the hyperlinks in the main body of text throughout the site. I' m only talking about in areas where there is a lot of copy not, for example, the header links. I think leaving the link colors and underlines will serve their intended purpose. The reason I recommend this is, again, so the eye is not distracted. quote:
Ah, but that' s the thing...we want this site to look DIFFERENT than all the other sites that basically shout the same thing... As stated, I had no objection to the " different" look. Go for it! My concern was that people connect the text with the proper image. We humans are creatures of habit so, imho, when we take creative license there should still be some familiarity with it. I really do like the unique and lovely color combos you incorporate into your sites. gail
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/18/2002 8:54:45
Well, in any case, I got my index page HTML 4.01 Transitional...VALIDATED. Oh, man, that took forever! ANd when I got the window that said " This Document IS Valid" you could have told me I won the lottery and I coudln' t have been happier. LOL
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/18/2002 15:13:40
Thanks for the heads up, Shirley... Sometimes FP does that. It' s supposed to automatically drop all that hard drive stuff when you save it, but that has happened to me on occasion. Anyone have any idea why? I know one thing...I' m glad I have a rudimentary knowledge of HTML; otherwise I' d really be lost even with FP.
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/20/2002 11:32:38
Thanks, rsweb..I' ll fix that link! And yeah, I shoudl have put a " top of page" link at the bottom of that Consumer notice page. The pricing for houses around here is pretty kooky. We got our house for $49,000 (original asking price was $69, then he dropped to $59 after many many years on the market...we were the first suckers really interested in it in ten years so he dropped to $49k) Houses right on the Lake sell for upwards of 300k. There are some homes listed on other sites for over $600k, with maybe two acres tops, but with a hundred or so feet of lake frontage. It is hard to find a decent home that you can afford. Most of the year round residents are " working poor" . Many year round homes are cheap modulars, prefabs, or even trailers. Ours is a stick built, but what my husband calls an LMC Company Special....built by Larry, Moe, and Curly.
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/20/2002 11:46:15
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Ours is a stick built, but what my husband calls an LMC Company Special....built by Larry, Moe, and Curly. I almost wish I had one of those. Ours is an OLD farmhouse. It could have been nice if it had been kept up. The part-time (only spring/summer) neighbors have a house around the same age as ours...it' s in descent condition for it' s age and even has a cement basement floor. Ours is dirt and the plumbing is bad so drains don' t always drain properly...gets a bit " smelly" at times. I just hate it! I used to see potential, a fixer upper. However, I have a husband who doesn' t want to spend the money to hire someone else to do it, chooses to work on it himself. That is fine, if it gets done. I can at least say there' s sheetrock up on walls finally upstairs. When I first met him it was partially " torn apart" , about 10 years earlier his parents started preparing to remodel, tore plaster off walls, etc...then the project got kind-of abandoned. The bedroom walls upstairs were nothing more than the siding and inside slats. It was a bit breezy, you could see daylight through the cracks in the siding. One day I awoke to a cool mist-like sensation on my face, it was tiny snowflakes blowing in from outside. That was about 6-7 years ago. The insulation and sheetrock just got finished last fall....just a bit of an indication of how quickly it' s going. He hates doing the work so he does it when he " feels like it" which is not very often. (HA!) A tin can trailer would be a pretty good improvement!
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RE: Realtor Site Finally Complete! - 12/20/2002 15:35:55
ROTFL...if it will make you feel better, my house is over 50 years old, and was put together with RECYCLED PARTS BACK THEN...so I' ll be parts of this house ARE 100 years old. My basement, while it does have a cement floor and cinderblock walls, ALWAYS floods every spring if we get more than three days of rain in a row. In April hubby calls our state Pennsylrainia instead of Pennsylvania. To top it all off...my husband IS a carpenter. It' s just that he spends so much tme fixing OTHER people' s houses, that he doesnt' really have the time or energy to fix this one up so much. My bathroom is a humiliating eyesore; one room is completely gutted, but at least it has plywood behind the studs! No misty cool showers of dew on my face! LOL We' re hoping to get this house fixed up to sell it at a nice tidy profit so we can pay off the mortgage and have a decent downpayment for a newer house...down south somewhere. THough today is pretty warm...upper 40s. Last week the temps were in the low 20s with a nice stiff breeze...snow on Thanksgiving...we' ve had about 18 inches of snow so far....15 to 18, depending on the location.
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