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Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/5/2003 11:28:34   
Is it okay to use the spacebar for positioning once and a while, as below?

thanks, gail

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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/5/2003 13:48:16   
Define OK

It is " OK" in that it will work.

It is a very ' sloppy' way to position however and is a waste of bandwidth & processor time.

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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/5/2003 14:03:40   

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ORIGINAL: Gil

It is " OK" in that it will work.



Thanks Gil!

My problem is that I' m working with a photo gallery/html generated in Photoshop. My knowledge of html, while certainly improved, is too limited to figure out what' s going on there.

http://www.lbevents.com/gallery.htm

I' m simply trying to flush-right align text to the right side of photos; some tables work, others do not. For the latter, I' ve simply typed the text and use the spacebar. Still not perfect but better, at least in the browser' s I' ve checked.

If I told you how long I' ve been playing with this you might not believe it. So at this moment " sloppy" prevails over perfection.

gail




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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/5/2003 18:32:43   
Hi Gail,

As Gil says, using non-breaking spaces is not a good idea - besides bandwidth etc, it will give variable results, depending not only on which browser is used but also what screen resolution and font size each person has. However, I understand your frustration and need to get something functional!

I' ve had a look at the coding of some of the photos - and see you have two " sorts" . One which uses blockquotes and nbsp; and another which uses blockquotes and a table for the main picture.

May I suggest you place both the picture and caption in a centred table with the paragraph alignment set to " right" . Lose the blockquotes wherever possible, and use hspace and vspace for the top text graphic for positioning.

Here is some suggested code for one of the pages - if you wish to use it on others, just copy > paste and change the name of the graphic, title etc:

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv=" content-type" content=" text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" >
<title>08</title>
<meta http-equiv=" refresh" content=" 10;URL=09.htm" >
</head>
<body leftmargin=" 0" marginwidth=" 0" topmargin=" 2" marginheight=" 0" text=" white" link=" white" vlink=" #a9a9a9" alink=" #f0e68c" bgcolor=" #3c3939" >

<p><img border=" 0" src=" ../../LBE%20gifs/theatrical.gif" alt=" Theatrical" width=" 175" height=" 55" hspace=" 50" vspace=" 25" ></p>
<p> </p>
<table align=" center" border=" 0" cellpadding=" 0" cellspacing=" 0" >
<tr><td>
<img border=" 0" src=" ../images/08.jpg" width=" 420" height=" 280" >
</td></tr>
<tr><td><p align=" right" >
<font size=" 1" face=" Arial" color=" #A9A9A9" >Photo credit: Richard Cruver</font></p>
</td></tr></table>
<p> </p>
</body>
</html>


I think in another thread you asked about changing the slide show to 5 secs instead of 10 secs. This is controlled by your meta " refresh" tag. You' ll notice that it is set to: content=" 10; ... change that number to " 5; on all gallery pages to make it 5 secs.

Let me know if all the above does what you are wanting - I haven' t tested it in any browsers [:j] but I' m sure it can be modified if necessary.

Good luck!:)

< Message edited by Kitka -- 1/6/2003 10:35:31 AM >


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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/5/2003 19:25:27   

quote:

I think in another thread you asked about changing the slide show to 5 secs instead of 10 secs. This is controlled by your meta " refresh" tag. You' ll notice that it is set to: content=" 10; ... change that number to " 5; on all gallery pages to make it 5 secs.


This is perfect! I looked everywhere but in the meta tags! I' ll post your reply in the other thread because there were others interested in knowing how to change the time sequence.

quote:

Let me know if all the above does what you are wanting - I haven' t tested it in any browsers [:j] but I' m sure it can be modified if necessary.



Thank you Kitka and others who have helped with this. I' ll get back to you but right now this and the image tiling that need to be fixed at the site, which has visual NO problems in IE, will have to wait. It is not a priority for the customer neither is it any longer for me.

The sloppy spacebar thingamajiggies have been removed and the text simply centered under the photos. It shall do for now.

I think there are times when it is worthwhile to set something aside for a while and get back to it when the frustration subsides. For me, this is one of those times! Perhaps you understand the feeling.

Again, thanks!

gail

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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/6/2003 2:53:43   
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Perhaps you understand the feeling.


Sure do! :):):):):)

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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/6/2003 11:34:33   
spaces for formatting is a bad idea

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RE: Using the spacebar for positioning - 1/9/2003 14:22:26   

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ORIGINAL: Kitka


Here is some suggested code for one of the pages -


Let me know if all the above does what you are wanting -



Just wanted to let you know, Kitka, that I created a page with your code and tested it on my hard drive (there' s that word again :) [:p]). The code looks great. Thank you so much!

Still leaving fixing this as a fill-in job and will continute to set it aside for a while. Right now NN 4.7 and I need a break from one another. :) Sheese, who ever thought one could get so ticked off with a browser! [:' (]

gail

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