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yankeeblues
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co location vs separate accounts - 2/3/2003 17:06:58
I currently host about 16 web sites with a large hosting co. The sites are basic packages and performance varies. Anybody using a dedicated single server from a third party and hosting a bunch of virtual domains thereon?
I think I am spending around $300 per mo my cost.
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DarlingBri
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/4/2003 15:09:09
Personally, I don' t think that number of sites warrants having your own box, but I would move to a reseller account. Then you get X amount of space and you can host multiple sites under it through your own control panel.
PS--You' d save a ton of money. That' s crazy for hosting. I have a HUGE website with crazy traffic and I don' t even pay that a year!
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yankeeblues
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/4/2003 17:29:48
Thanks for the suggestion. I need separate virtual domains with domain mail accounts for each client..do you or anyone else have a host to recommend. I pay about $20 a month for each account now as a reseller for each - W2000, FP2002, 150 mb, 30 pop boxes etc.
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abbeyvet
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/4/2003 18:02:49
There are two types of reseller plans:
1. You sell someone elses plans which you have bought at a discount. Really these are more like affiliate relationships.
2. You buy space and bandwidth in bulk and carve it up and charge for it as you see fit. You carve it up into virtual domains - it does not mean people have some weird URL, it is just the same as it would ordinarily be.
I suspect you are using the former, and think you should be looking for the latter.
It sounds great that each separate domain you have now has 150 MB and 30 email boxes. Let me ask you two questions though:
How many of those sites are using anything even close to 150MB?
How many of those site actually need or use 30 email addresses?
I bet they have about 1GB of bandwidth too!
I host a fair few sites (don' t do resellers though, and Linux only - this is in NO way a commercial post!!). They mostly are given fairly generous bandwidth and space. When I look at monthly bandwidth useage, which appears as a percentage in a list alongside site names, most of the sites are using somewhere between 0% and 5% of their allowance. Few of them use even 25% of their disc space, many a lot less.
A few of course are using a reasonable amount, but most sites, most of the time neither need the type of plan they have nor use it.
But try selling someone 15MB of disc space, 3 email addresses and 0.1 GB of bandwidth and see where you go - noone will buy it, though in fact it is all most of them will ever need.
What I am trying to say is the fact that you now have say 16 sites each with 150MB, 30 email addresses and 1GB of bandwidth does NOT mean you are lookging for 2400MB, 480 email addresses and 16 GBs of oomph to host all of these on a reseller plan.
Make an assessment of what your clients are ACTUALLY using now, the decide what you need interms of a reseller plan.
Two good and reliable places for Windows reseller plans are www.appliedi.net and www.datapipe.com
Neither are the cheapest you will find, but the cheapest is probabaly not where you want to go and they are certainly within your budget based on what you are paying now.
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yankeeblues
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/4/2003 19:20:31
I understand these concepts completely although you have contrasted the 2 types of reseller accounts very succinctly. I previously had such an account with 9Net Ave before they got sucked up by XO and they phased out this type of plan in favor of type number one. I went the #1 route because I wasn' t really looking to make money on hosting - just design and maintenance. But, as I add more clients (a few each year) it seems like I am now paying more than really necessary. And I am tiring of each client being on a different server with another 150 other sites. I saw that datapipe has a plan for about $150 mo that carves up one server into 4 pieces and you have complete control...I am hoping to be able to run a bunch of databases with asp with less trouble than now. I am always having to ask the host to restart services or reboot.
I will start to do my homework now. Thank you both for your excellent insights.
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/9/2003 19:23:52
ServerBeach.com.
$99.00/month gets you your own server.
I checked it out. Looks pretty legit. Trying to corner the market
800Hosint.com has decent rack space prices.
I use Neospire for 2 co-lo servers. A bit pricey but support is excellent.
You get what you pay for when I comes to support. The minimum price comes with minimum support, but chances are you won' t need that much. Servers are increasingly stable, even old MS.
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/9/2003 19:24:45
Acckk. Can' t type.
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RE: co location vs separate accounts - 2/12/2003 3:43:58
www.thehostfactory.net, 16+ sites, $80.00 month. good service, good speed.
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