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Eli

 

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Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 4:33:04   
I' ve just signed up for Google adwords. But can' t get my ad up. I don' t seem to be over my daily budget.

Any ideas?
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RE: Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 5:42:41   
Go back in and triple check that you have activated the account with funds and commenced your campaign.

I recall changing things once & ended up with a new ad that I didnt push the all important button for. Waited for an hour and still nothing.
But got there in the end (& I had run many campaigns previously)

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 7:09:00   
are u saying that i have to put funds into an account first, and then get billed?

according to google:

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Google sets a credit limit of £50 (or your currency equivalent) on each account when it is activated. An account is billed after it reaches its credit limit or after 30 days, whichever comes first


the account has been activated.

< Message edited by Micah -- 2/11/2003 7:11 AM >

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 11:25:59   
Just give Google a credit card and you will be fine. I have never figured out what causes the frequency of my charges to be all over the place. I advertise around $300 per day and get billed/charged every 3 to 6 days.

I have had the same problems that Gary mentioned.

Also, the Google estimate of what your daily spending should be is not always accurate. If you have a $30 daily limit - Google attempts to spread that over the entire day. If more people are clicking your ads than what is estimated then Google will spread your ads out and you will not see them as often. Try temporarily bumping your daily limit up and see if your ad comes up more often.

Don' t forget to turn it down! I once got wacked hard because I forgot to lower a bid amount after experimenting.

Hope this helps.

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 19:28:08   
We are looking at Google AdWords here in Australia - now that Google has its own Australian front end. While we are on the subject of discussing Google Adwords I thought it might be timely to suss out what sort of success has been had with Google AdWords - and costs of achieving said success.

Confusing... you betcha... :)

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Eli

 

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 20:08:45   
I got it sorted.

Turned out that my server was off line last night when google ran their checks. They immediatly pulled the plug on the ad so as not to send people to a server error page.

(i which i could get that kind of service from my server!) :)

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/11/2003 23:04:36   
Hi Moose

I have been using adwords with reasonable success (I assume).
But it depends on your market and whether they are browsers or buyers.

I used to throw all my $$ at goto aka overture and battle for #3 posn every few days. (some guys were aggressive in their pricing
THen adwords came along & I was lonely there for a while (then the competition arrived & upped the $$).

Try to get a few kewyords that are more concise (refer to your logs) as the singular terms if very generic will drop off as the " click thru rate" is not reached.
Ie I have one for ' Katherine' (being the town I live in), but every second person on earth is called Katherine (aka abbeyvet) so the actual people not looking for the town see our ad, do not click on it & the relevance of that keyword is diminished, .........then Google says sorry, pick some more words to add to it. So on to ' Katherine Northern Territory' , stays up longer as the click through rate is better, but less people actually type all the keywords in. ( " northern Territory" on its own just dropped off again............as the last 1000 viewings didnt get enough clicks)

It is always a battle to work out what people are searching in for and then get the right people to come your way with relevancy & return on investment.

Google has worked out cheap for me (compared to overture) with most referrals coming from Googs.

But it comes back to basics of creating and optimising your site to do well without you having to fork out $$.

Try your keywords on Teoma & alltheweb & you may be pleasantly surprised at how much they like your site compared to google.

Depending on your market, Overtures target Countries bidding might be an option, ie I bid in Germany for a few keywords as they have a good market for my didgeridoos.

mojojojo you must be getting a good return on your advertising !

Cheers from the Outback

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/12/2003 1:06:31   
garry seem to have had the same experiences with Overture and Google.

Overture can drive a lot of traffic, but man - it can get expensive in a hurry. The price wars on Overture are often and costly. I have gotten into several bidding wars on Google, but they don' t seem to last as long or be as visious as Overture.

garry -
Google has worked out wonderfully for me. The law of diminishing returns has once again proved itself out. If I advertise less than $100 per day the click ads run about 10% of sales. Around $300 per day and it drops to a little less than 5% of sales. More than $300 and it starts to climb up to 10% and above.

But, the best $$ maker I have found --- spam email. I had to do this for a company I was recently working for and let me tell you.... it is going to be hard to stop spam. For every 2 people that sent flaming emails to us there must have been $1000 in sales! If you are a company in need of cash and don' t care about your short term reputation within a small circle spam will make boatloads of money.
--- are we mature enough to talk about this? :)

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/12/2003 4:58:45   
the best thing that I' ve found about adwords is that you can make is specific so product so that any click thru have a higher possiblity of sales.

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ORIGINAL: Mojojojo
But, the best $$ maker I have found --- spam email. I had to do this for a company I was recently working for and let me tell you.... it is going to be hard to stop spam. For every 2 people that sent flaming emails to us there must have been $1000 in sales! If you are a company in need of cash and don' t care about your short term reputation within a small circle spam will make boatloads of money.


sad but true.

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/12/2003 8:31:27   
Micah,

Some of my clients have had a great deal of success with Google Ads word. We found a category that related to their business & first month they had 8 sales. Considering their product is in the higher range. Money is well spent.

Other client is also having good results. Just make sure the category is what best suits you.

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garry

 

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/12/2003 8:59:24   
Spam !

I remember doing trips to the tip /dump with my grandparents and collecting some great stuff as a kid.
I Still have a mirror on the wall 20 years on :) (OK a bit of contention with the wife)

One mans trash is anothers treasure...........just the way spam is.

A new thread on spam , Jo would be good to hear.......just lay out the terms of reference first, and we might get some constructive input (no matter how damning), its all constructive.

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RE: Google Adwords - 2/14/2003 8:12:32   
Garry,

Thanks for the cool advice, I will look into Teoma and Ask Jeeves, as well as honing the keywords which we hook into on Google.

I agree too we should start a discussion on the merits, or lack thereof if it proves to be the case, of SPAM (because it ain' t gonna go away - I get about 40 spam mails a day on each of my three email addresses - have only once clicked on one though, it was for a piece of graphic design software - didn' t buy it though). :)

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