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Bruce2000
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Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/13/2003 14:07:52
I' m having a problem - hoping someone can help. When I go to " publish" on the menu the 1st box is for the " destination to publish to" and I type in the name of my website on the web (domain name), and then it will bring up a small login box. I type in my username and password and it stays on that box - like it does not accept this. If I click " cancel" it will then tell me that " a web does not exist there" . But there is indeed a website there!
I can publish via FTP though. But the last time I published I was able to do it and not use ftp. I dont understand why it doesnt work now. my version of frontpage is frontpage XP. Frontpage extensions are installed on my host' s server. I contacted the helpdesk at my host and they say that they tried to get access using the username & password that I gave them, and it worked ok! There must be something with my setup of Frontpage then, right?
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Gil
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/13/2003 15:22:42
First - you do not " publish" with FTP, Publish is a Microsoft term and requires the Frontpage extensions on the web server. And I assume you mean Frontpage 2002?
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I type in the name of my website on the web (domain name),
Are you typing: http://www.domain.com/ ? -
not just the doamin name?
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Bruce2000
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/13/2003 16:01:42
yes, I typed the full domain name/the path to the directory which has all my html pages.
yes, i did mean frontpage 2002. Extensions are installed.
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/14/2003 6:32:01
Well.
You made your biggest mistake when you uploaded files via FTP to your site. This is a absolute no-no with Frontpage. It does not take much for FP Extensions to be corrupted and " publishing" via a FTP client can do this.
Next question. Is your domain propagated to your server? I ask this as it was not mentioned before (I may have missed it too) and you do have to wait (generally) until the domain name has propagated to your site location. If it is propagated, ask your host to remove and then RE-INSTALL the FP extensions to your site. This could rectify your problem.
Sometimes on some servers, the username is different than your Admin login name. As well, I have heard of instances where the username has to be inputted as username@yourdomain.tld for it to be accepted.
Also make sure that the version of FP extensions are compatible with your version. Has your host made any changes to the server which could cause your FP not to work properly now?
FP extensions are extremely finicky especially on a *nix based server. I know. I was with a host where I had 6 sites. One of the sites became a login nightmare for me and the host kept blaming the problems on me for having a site " that was too big for Frontpage to work with" as they track down the cause which was internal to their server. I moved to my own server. And no problems anymore.
Another thought. When you are running a Frontpage enabled site on a *nix based server, you should only be " publishing" to that server once. Your first upload. From then on, to prevent possible corruption of the Frontpage Extensions, use the " Open Web" feature and do your edits ' against the server itself" This approach is especially true for larger sites and when you complete your edits, save and then publish to your hard-drive so you have a current copy on your system.
Just some thoughts from the peanut gallery. Hope you can get your problem resolved
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Gil
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/14/2003 7:21:26
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FP extensions are extremely finicky especially on a *nix based server
This comment is based on what?
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Another thought. When you are running a Frontpage enabled site on a *nix based server, you should only be " publishing" to that server once. Your first upload. From then on, to prevent possible corruption of the Frontpage Extensions, use the " Open Web" feature and do your edits ' against the server itself"
I COMPLETELY disagree!!!!! Sorry, but I' ve seen many references to working " live" on the server and have never understood why anyone would. There is NO advantage to doing this (you will still have to " publish" back to your machine in order to have a current copy) and it increases the chance for error - plus really slows down response for visitors during the time you are working.
Glen, why do you feel there are differences (other then lack of security on WIN) between a Windoze and a *nix server?
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Gil
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/14/2003 7:53:08
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I typed the full domain name/the path to the directory
What path? It is just http://domainname.com right?
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Shirley
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/14/2003 9:45:42
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Another thought. When you are running a Frontpage enabled site on a *nix based server, you should only be " publishing" to that server once. Your first upload. From then on, to prevent possible corruption of the Frontpage Extensions, use the " Open Web" feature and do your edits ' against the server itself" This approach is especially true for larger sites and when you complete your edits, save and then publish to your hard-drive so you have a current copy on your system.
HUH???
I have a large site that I update every day I always publish selected files.
Back to the original question..
are you typing in
1.www.yourdomain or
2.yourdomain.com or
3. are you putting the http:// at the beginning
4. or are you actually typing the path home/sites/web/whatever
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caywind
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/15/2003 4:53:23
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I type in the name of my website on the web (domain name), and then it will bring up a small login box. I type in my username and password and it stays on that box - like it does not accept this I think Shirley has it... it' s not the name/password, its the way you' re entering the domain name.
In that box you must type it in like this
http://www.yourdomainname.com
no slashes at the end. BTW can you post a URL?
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Bruce2000
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/15/2003 13:31:58
Good news and Bad News......the good news is the problem has been solved - my host gave me a whole new password which works thru Frontpage and also connects via FTP. somehow the password I was using must have been corrupted - I had not published an update in 9 months.
Frontpage will now connect and publish directly.
But
They raised a new question. I' ve heard this before too. You have to either publish with FP or use FTP but you cannot use both or else the " frontpage extensions" wont work and have to be re-installed by the host. True? Why is this so? The other day, while not having frontpage access, I uploaded a php scriptand one page - contact page - via ftp. So does this mean it wont work now? How will I know if it does not work? My contact script is not working but that may be because I coded it wrong (see my other post). It is a contact form to send an email to me when someone submits their comment, and is supposed to rely on a php script located in the cgi-bin. Does this make use of frontpage extensions?
Someone said that just the act of publishing by itself (thru frontpage) requires the extensions - I tried to publish a page and it worked fine so does that mean my extensions are going to be ok?
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Gil
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RE: Can' t Publish From Frontpage XP - 3/15/2003 14:19:24
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They raised a new question. I' ve heard this before too. You have to either publish with FP or use FTP but you cannot use both or else the " frontpage extensions" wont work and have to be re-installed by the host. True?
Not completely - You can publish w/ FP AND ftp as long as you do not ftp any files that contain FP BOTS. FTP to a cgi-bin is fimne, but never allow Frontpage to touch the cgi-bin or any pages that contain PHP.
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Why is this so?
Just an element of Microsoft' s MS ONLY scheme, I guess
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The other day, while not having frontpage access, I uploaded a php scriptand one page - contact page - via ftp. So does this mean it wont work now? How will I know if it does not work? My contact script is not working but that may be because I coded it wrong (see my other post). It is a contact form to send an email to me when someone submits their comment, and is supposed to rely on a php script located in the cgi-bin. Does this make use of frontpage extensions?
No
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Someone said that just the act of publishing by itself (thru frontpage) requires the extensions - I tried to publish a page and it worked fine so does that mean my extensions are going to be ok?
If you can publish the extensions are installed and working.
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