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Password. - 3/15/2003 14:36:56
Does anybody know how i can put a password on a site in frontpage (office xp edition) if not do you know the html? (the frontpage method would be prefered.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 11:43:00
not really. what i want is to set it so when you go to the site a password box pops up and you have to tupe in a password to get in.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 12:10:19
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not really. what i want is to set it so when you go to the site a password box pops up and you have to tupe in a password to get in.
Hmmm, that' s what the article Micah posted was about - what else is it you need?
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 12:37:39
i dunno, it dosen' t work for me. i have latest version of frontpage but i don' t have the sucurity menu. when i go tools i don' t see and sucurity menu option and i searched it on the help and it didn' t show up.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 12:43:54
The second paragraph in the article explains that in order to have access to the tools menu you need to open your site live from the server. It also explains how to do that:
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Your FP Tools > Security menu (which brings up the dialog you use to set permissions for webs and subwebs) may be grayed out. It is always grayed out on local webs because you don' t set permissions for a web on your local computer. You can only set permissions on a site or a subweb by opening the live site or subweb and then doing Tools > Security > Permissions. You can open your hosted site the same way you open a local site. File > Open Web > Type in http://www.url.com.
The Security menu will also be grayed out if you do not have Admin level permission to your web. Unix hosts typically grant Admin level permissions. NT hosts often do not.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 12:58:30
when i go to open the site under file> open web it says: " the folder http://www3.sympatico.ca/buckeboy/terrytunes.htm isn' t accessable. the folder may be located in an unavaliable location, protected with a password, or the frle name contains a / or \." and it says the same thing when i try to open www3.sympatico.ca
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 13:42:39
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you need to open your site live from the server
Ah, but even when you do and follow the directions you' ve indicated, it does not necessarily work. I' ve tried to set permissions so I can use a subweb with a password, without success, and I tried this while working on the site live.
I don' t recall the thread where this issue was discussed a month or so ago but a solution was never found. Is there one?
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 13:47:15
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the folder http://www3.sympatico.ca/buckeboy/terrytunes.htm
buckeboy is not a web - it is either a subweb or a directory of www3.sympatico.ca, so you will need to contact them. You obviously do not have admin permissions at that location, they may or may not grant them.
This is quite a different situation to working within your own domain and none of the usual generalities that apply will apply in that situation.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 14:41:22
then does anyone have an html code or somthing i can do to put a password on my main page so only peope with the password can acess it?
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 16:36:55
Nope - can' t be done with HTML.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 16:48:23
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then does anyone have an html code or somthing
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Nope - can' t be done with HTML.
And what about the " or something" part of the inquiry for the nervous newbie?
I had someone install a simple, password protected area at one of my sites because I didn' t have a clue how to do it. But it IS something I' d very much like to learn and that' s why I' m following this thread!!
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:08:05
earpoo and _Gail. It will be really hard to tell you how to achieve this without knowing more about the servers or hosts. Linux and Windows have different ways of implementing security.
The easiest way is if your host has some kind of control panel for the domain. Then it is usually just some kind of dialog box that you fill in and security for a folder will be set.
There are also a million scripts out there that can give the impression that you are entering a secure area but I don' t trust them.
earpoo - your main domain www3.sympatico.ca is hosted on a Netscape Server. On that server you will probably not find much help except by calling your host... It' s just that I' ve never used or worked on a Netscape Server...
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:14:06
Password protection needs to be done " server side" , not w/ HTML " or something" - most hosts have a feature to do this from the control panel.
Gail, I was answering earpoo - his site is not hosted as a " Domain" and so as Katherine said " This is quite a different situation to working within your own domain and none of the usual generalities that apply will apply in that situation. "
On a *nix server protection is fairly simple through a .htaccess file. I' ll have to pass on a WIN server - I
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:16:44
Is the Spooky Login not being mentioned for a reason? If you can run ASP on your server it seems it should do the trick. Though I admit I have no first hand experience with it. There is another (free) ASP login script at WebWizGuide that I have played with and that seems fairly simple to get up and running.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:21:41
On windows it is achieved server side but it depends on the options that the host has chosen to enable. Most chose not to enable password administration from FrontPage because it always gets torked and causes many problems, resets of the extensions, or rebuilding all of the user accounts and passwords for the site.
Generally, on a Windows server, if the security option is not gray, then your host allows it. If not, then they do not.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:23:33
Spooky Login is not for earpoo - He' s on Netscape. _Gail, I don' t know host info for her site....
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:26:08
caywind, Gil
Thanks for the further clarification. As you know, this area is not one of my stong points and though explanations are given, one does not always catch on the first time.
The expanded clarification provides additional guidance.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:37:38
Just looked at Netscape Enterprise and lo and behold... It says the server has support for .htaccess. In a nutshell then:
.htaccess is a file that you place in a folder that you want to protect on a *nix based server. Inside of this file is a list of the users names that you will allow or deny acces to any of the other files within the folder. The file is a simple ascii text file. The easiest way to get the file is by doing an internet search, which will give you a base file and probably some instructions on which areas to edit. You edit the file, upload it to the folder you wish to protect, and away you go. Get some education on the use of .htaccess because it can get complicated.
As you can see, this can get really clunky. I guess if you had a lot of time on your hands you could maintain it... That' s why Gil and I mention " Control Panel" . Even though they are not automatic, they do make the process a lot easier.
And finally, Netscape makes no mention of ASP so earpoo is still outa luck on the Spooky Login....
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 17:50:15
FYI - Netscape is a flavor of Unix, This server has kind of migrated from Netscape to Iplanet to ServerOne - now a Sun solution. BTW, there are .ASP & Coldfusion plug ins available for these web servers.
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 18:20:31
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Netscape is a flavor of Unix
so failing any plug ins, we' re looking at a perl script?
What about:
http://www.pitbullpro.com/
the lite version is 100% and from what I' m told its fairly easy to set up. (Although i haven' t done it and know v little about perl)
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RE: Password. - 3/16/2003 18:41:13
I' ve used Pittbull before and yes, it is pretty easy to set up. I' m just more comforable using .htaccess and administering it from telnet or SSH. Eitther will work just fine...
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RE: Password. - 3/17/2003 4:23:47
Gil, forgive my ignorance but can you explain .htaccess?
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Thanks for all the help but... - 3/18/2003 18:23:21
Ok heres the thing: 1. I don' t know much about this stuff at all (hence me posting on the n00bs forum lol) and 2. I don' t have a cgi bin so i don' t think most of this would work. So since i can' t do any of this, is there any way i could make an enter page and set a password form on that page so that you can' t enter past the enter pageunless you type the right password in? like a form on frontpage.
BTW i don' t know if this is important or not but my server does not support frontpage extension.
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RE: Thanks for all the help but... - 3/18/2003 19:51:57
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Ok heres the thing: 1. I don' t know much about this stuff at all (hence me posting on the n00bs forum lol) and 2. I don' t have a cgi bin so i don' t think most of this would work. So since i can' t do any of this, is there any way i could make an enter page and set a password form on that page so that you can' t enter past the enter pageunless you type the right password in? like a form on frontpage.
BTW i don' t know if this is important or not but my server does not support frontpage extension.
1. Read the turotial at the link I gave you - it' s not hard to understand
2. You don' t need a cgi bin to use a .htaccess file
3.No, you need some kind of server side action to protect a page
4. you don' t need FP extensions for this
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