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c1sissy -> Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 8:14:17)

Ok, now I thought that I had the IIS set up correctly. Did a simple little asp page and it works for me, I can accss this through any of my browsers. HOWEVER, no on else can access it!

I would appreciate any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong here! Thanks!



Doug G -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 11:22:14)

Any more details?

By no one else do you mean other usernames on the same computer, or other users on a local network, or Internet users?

One common problem is permissions. When you are an " anonymous" web user IIS uses a built-in user account, normally the IUSR_computername account. If you force windows authentication from your website, then IIS impersonates the logged in user.

You may have a firewall blocking TCP port 80 access to the web server from another location.



c1sissy -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 11:32:19)

http://momwhat/begasp/punctual.asp

Here is the link.

I think that I have the anonymous thing taken care of, through searching here and there.

I do have zone alarm. The freeware edition of it. I' m not sure how you would change anything in there or find out if this is what is blocking it.

From my computer, I can access it with no problem, however when I send someone the link to try, it won' t work for them.[&o]



caywind -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 12:01:28)

Zone Alarm should " pop-up" a warning when another computer tries to access the pages, and then the permission to access can be granted from there. Zone Alarm can also be disabled from it' s console. To test if it is ZA blocking the port, disable it temporarily, and try to access the pages.

You might try this site' s forums to see if they have run across this before...

www.iisanswers.com

And finally the ever asked question,
What do the logs say???



c1sissy -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 12:33:58)

quote:

And finally the ever asked question,
What do the logs say???

Caywind, like I said, I am way below beginner level here[&o][:' (]

Where and how do I access the logs?

I' m going to disable Zone Alarm to see what happens.

I, myself can access this from my own computer with different browsers, opera, etc... I even clicked the link that I have on here and got through. Nothing is jumping up from zone alarm asking permission.Going crazy trying to figure it out.

Yes, I do belong to the iisanswers.com. I had joined them to read through things in there, plus I believe that was the only one that I found that had IIS5.1 specific forum.

I did get a book for christmas regarding the usage of IIS 5, however it only covers 5.0 and I have found many differences between what the IIS 5.0 shows something to be and how the IIS 5.1 is set up. I however, can' t find any books online that deal with IIS5.1. I have found them on IIS 6. Go figure right?

I think that I need a break from this right now, I think my brain is going into confusion overload.[:@]

I' ll search my books to see if I can find anything as well as going to the link that you provided for me.



Gil -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 12:41:09)

quote:

http://momwhat/begasp/punctual.asp


To access this page from outside your local network would require a " valid" URL - a .com, .net, etc. and a DNS entry in a DNS server...



c1sissy -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 12:44:22)

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To access this page from outside your local network would require a " valid" URL - a .com, .net, etc. and a DNS entry in a DNS server...


Erin also asked me something about the DNS, how do I go about this? Also, why can I access this, but others can' t? Please don' t think that I am dumb here, I just don' t understand this. Also, is this possible with the server being on my machine? ieeee.

I know this is a reall learning experience, however, am willing to learn this.

I' m signing off for now. But I' ll be back to battle this[;)]

I don' t like being beat! lol

<edit afterthought>
Isnt .asp a valid address?
also, this is on my computer, IIS 5.1 Windows xp pro. You need to register a domain name for this? I" m so totally confused right now. heavy heavy sigh.



caywind -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/20/2003 21:39:45)

yep that' s right. Let me try to explain it...

Within you local area network or just your workstation you can access the page because your browser " knows" where to find it. IIS is inside of the network and can serve up the page to anyone else " inside" . The rest of the world needs to know the (DNS) trail to the file. To do that you would need to register the name (momwhat) with a registrar, Godaddy or Netsol, etc, and you would also need to tell the registrar where the Domain Name Server (DNS) for your network is. That would complete the trail to your IIS web server. Now once that is all set up, I can type http://momwhat.com/begasp/punctual.asp and the servers will send my request for a file to your web server (IIS) and it will open.

You can test asp pages within your network but the rest of the world can' t see them. If you want the rest of the world to see your ASP pages then they need to be uploaded to a web server that supports ASP and is registered as a dotcom (net, org, etc). You can get an account at www.brinkster.com for free and use that for testing...



c1sissy -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/21/2003 0:56:22)

Caywind:
So really, if I am only doing test pages right now, I really don' t need to worry about the DNS?

I have a few hostings with 1asphost.com.

I have my forum there, some test pages that I have already done, as well as my craft site that I have been eternally working on with html. So getting all in a tizzy right now isn' t really worth it. If I decide to regiester momwhat, I would be able to do so as finances allow, correct? lol, and I don' t think that momwhat is a really popular domain choice! roflol. I choose this because all I hear is mom, and I am constantly answering what! Good choice wasn' t it? I swear even my cocketiels call mom, though, lol no on appears to think so but me[;)]

I think that for now I' ll use this as is and not worry about registering. If I register it will be for my craft site, and I know that I' ll have a bit of trouble with the name for that one. Deb' s Adorable Crafts and Gifts might just ahve a few people out there using it,[;)]

I want to thank everyone for their help. I guess I just need to get my focus on learning the asp, fp and html and css. Also trying to figure out installaion of a shopping cart on my html site. I have one however havent been able to figure ths one out as of yet.

So much gratitude is head towards all who have been ther to help with this one!



caywind -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/21/2003 3:42:01)

yeah, I looked at self hosting when broadband came to town, and made a business decision not to do it. To service real DNS queries from the internet you are actually supposed to have two DNS servers. Also, in the server world, you should have a backup server for everything....Then they crash and if you go with Microsoft, it needs to be constantly updated and patched, (two security updates on Wednesday!) and a constant headache....

That' s what I pay the host for, they keep the servers running and I can go out and get more clients...



c1sissy -> RE: Others cant access..... (3/21/2003 7:06:11)

Caywind:
Thanks so much for your help. You have no idea how much it means to me. I was going crazy thinking that it was something that I had done. LOL, the books don' t let you know this part of the IIS. [:@] Or at least I haven' t read it in this context as of yet.

My knowledge of this isn' t that grand, [&o], though I would like it to be. And being self taught, I' m not sure how far along I would get.

I was reading about server farms, lol, I had always dreamed of a farm! I could just picture all those domain names frolicking about merily in my farm. (can you tell that I am suffereing from a lack of sleep?) However, I' m sure that the expense and knowledge of such a thing is way beyond my grasp. So, as I dream of a farm with horses on it, so goes my dream of web domains prancing about merily.[:D][:p][:D]



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