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Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 16:07:06   
Hi all...

I have a couple of friends in the graphics biz and when I asked them about doing this they told me it was a pretty major undertaking... but they like to make things sound more difficult than they are sometimes... :)

What I want to do is deboss (I think that' s the proper term) a portion of a logo (basically a circle with an " f" cut out of it).

I wish I had the file with me so I could post it and show you...

It' s a circle that is a gradient of bright green to dark... with the shape of an " f" cut out of it, floating over a black background... I want the green parts to look like an enamel automobile emblem / ornament. Like Fords blue oval... kind of...

Is this really tough? Or something that I might be able to accomplish with a little effort?

Am I making any sense at all?

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 16:49:28   
Not that I have an answer for you, but do you mean " emboss?" Or, even " bevel?"

I haven' t heard the term " deboss," but that doesn' t mean it doesn' t exist, it means I don' t know about it.

I ran to google and found this little example of " deboss."

http://www.sevillegear.com/deboss.asp

I' m sure it can be faked somewhat easily in PhotoShop, just don' t know how off of the top of my head. I' ll bet Seventh knows.

Is this what you meant to do, Bobby?

Thanks, I just learned something new.

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 17:59:14   
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I haven' t heard the term " deboss,"


Well, terry, bobby thinks he' s " de boss!" [:p]

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 18:02:25   
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...something that I might be able to accomplish with a little effort?

Once you figure if you want to deboss or emboss, I would be very surprised if you couldn' t.:):)[:p]

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 18:42:48   
Terry - I think that' s the general idea, only that site is for physical debossing... not the digital kind.

To be honest I' m not sure if that' s the proper terminology or not... but that' s the word that was used when I asked about the process.

I kind of like _gails idea better...

It' s not embossing, but almost like it...

Instead of making the image look like it' s embedded into, or raised up from the surface...

Well it sort of is...

Take a simple oval, like the Ford emblem... give it a 3-D " look" as if it' s rounded or semi-spherical... add some lighting effects to give it that shiny polished enamel look, and voila! Debossed!

I was surfing around the other nite and saw a couple of web logos that used that effect, I just cant remember where any of them are at the moment...

It appears that I temporarily have a new mission [:p]

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 18:52:14   
Amateur attempt but something like this? (IC)
:)

Na that doesn' t do it.:)

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 18:52:53   
I just found a website that defines deboss as the same thing as engrave or embed, so obviously that' s the wrong terminology...

I want the oposite... I want it to look like its raised off of the page... but embossing - up doesn' t get it there...

I' ll have to play with some ideas and see if I can stumble upon a solution...

Thanks all, I' ll post back if I have any luck...

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 18:55:12   
Hey Mike, thanks for taking the time...

That' s about what I' ve come up with when I try to emboss... but I want to add a convex look, and a polished... glossy enamel finish to it at the same time...

I think I need to play with the 3-D rendering sphere in PS6... or maybe try the Gimp, I need practice with it anyway...





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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 18:58:51   

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ORIGINAL: bobby

I was surfing around the other nite and saw a couple of web logos that used that effect, I just cant remember where any of them are at the moment...



Aw, come on, boss-bobby. Let' s see an example so we know what you' re talking about. You don' t mean " pillow emboss" do you? Photoshop gives several emboss options, not to mention scads of other options (including better color options):

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 19:12:04   
I' m looking... I' m looking!!

The outer bevel is probably the closest... I wish I had my logo on file on this pc so I could at least show you what it looks like as-is

I' ll find an example and post it back... the one sticking in my mind was in the shape of an " h" - well, a funky " h" anyway... and was really cool.

I' ll find one and post it back.

Maybe I' ve dreampt this whole thing and have no idea what I' m talking about... that happens rather frequently... :)

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 19:21:48   
Something just clicked (read: snapped) in my head... I think I figured out how to do it...

So simple! Maybe... I have an idea to try...

Now I have to go home and see if I' m right...

The only problem is that time seems to have stopped since I thought of it... :)



Linear thought process..? What the heck is a linear thought process?

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/11/2003 19:31:37   
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Something just clicked (read: snapped) in my head...

That' s good, I have to run down to SUNY Maritime with the youngest daughter tomorrow (computer deprivation for eight hours:):) - read Outfront) and the drive would have made me nuts thinking about this.:):)[:p]

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/12/2003 3:02:01   
Sorry it took me so long to post back... Mike, I hope you were able to sleep okay [:p]

I just got done cleaning the house. Kerri' s Mom and Sister were going to come over and help out... tomorrow is Kerri' s baby shower... but they ran short on time and we had to finish up what we could.

Anyway... I started thinking... if debossing is so tough, why is every reference to it tied to embossing or engraving, or some other similar term and effect..?

Mabye it' s not the emboss at all. I mean, it is... but that' s not what I' m missing.

Maybe it was texture?

As you can see I' m not very good at describing what' s in my head... but adding some satin to it and playing with the curve levels got me close enough that I' m happy with it...

I seperated the two " halves" of green and added an emboss (outer bevel) to them. Then I played with the angles on each individually until I got the " light source" close to what I wanted.

Then I stumbled upon the Satin settings and got to playing in there. I tweaked the contours until the colors blended and bent just right (or maybe just a bit too far, that' s okay too... :))

Saved for web as a GIF

I have several empty bottles of Bud to toss (Jr.' s pass was SO legal), and then I' m going to bed. Lot' s more to do tomorrow before the shower.

Also, looked best against black IMO :)



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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/12/2003 7:39:58   
Slept like a baby Bobby. I wish I could just sit here and play with the concept in PSP, struggling with the unknown is a great way to learn.:):):) Oops wife is after me for driving directions and " when are you getting in the shower?" gotta go.

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/12/2003 17:39:10   
Next step may be to give it some 3-D perspective and float it... I' ll have to see how ambitious I get...

Go take a shower [:p]

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/13/2003 12:25:56   
What font was that f of yours Bobby?


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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/13/2003 20:38:43   
' Xeranthemum'

I think I picked it up during one of my ' lets take a gander at what the world of fonts has to offer' moments...

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/14/2003 8:47:32   
How ' bout this bobby?:)

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/14/2003 12:11:58   
NICE :)

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/14/2003 13:37:38   
Close?? Wrong font I realize - but I was too lazy to download it. *S*

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/14/2003 14:27:45   
Is it time for another contest? Submit your version to...

LOL!

Thanks Nancy... :)

This logo will eventually be placed atop the highly anticipated (by me) and critically acclaimed (again, by me) tech/news/fun website for " Temple of Foo"

brainfart.com was already taken... :)

So far the log above is about as far as I' ve been able to get... [:j]

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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/15/2003 7:59:06   
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" Temple of Foo"

brainfart.com was already taken...


roflol!!!


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RE: Deboss a logo in PS6? - 4/15/2003 18:42:27   
You think its funny now, wait until the site is up...:)

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