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Eli -> Fed Up! (5/9/2003 12:14:26)

i' m fed up with my crap host.

Is there a way to check the performance of a server?



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 12:35:54)

Depends on what you want to check - a simple ping will give you a fair idea of the response



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 12:52:34)

ok ... well ... my deal is that my site is SO slow people are taking the time to complain. I think that when that happens things have got to change! My pages aren' t big and even the simplest asp page takes minutes rather than seconds.

My only other consideration is that my server is being over resourced. I have contacted them but their " we are never wrong" attitude drives me nuts.

What is the best way to check?



Jim McShane -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 13:33:40)

Micah,

did you try ping yet??? how long it take?


-jim



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 14:08:00)

not sure how to do one (a ping that is)



Nancy -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 14:34:22)

You can do it from a DOS prompt, or it' s called a command prompt in Windows XP

but here' s a site that will do several functions:

http://network-tools.com/

Nancy



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 14:35:06)

Go to a command prompt and type: ping domain.com or type: ping ipnumber



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 14:36:43)

quote:

asp page


Oops - must be a WIN server? Sorry, I don' t do windoze [:p]



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 15:55:29)

ok - " did a ping" from network-tools.com

here are the results:

[www.leisure-ideas.com]

Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out
Timed out


Average time over 10 pings: 0 ms


now .... what does THAT mean?[:D]



Jim McShane -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 16:04:55)

sing in to site with frontpage first and then try ping.. mine is win2k also and it worked that way for me ...



Jim McShane -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 16:07:10)

slick start -- > run --> then type cmd get to command prompt .. then type ping www.domain.com and it should work

-jim



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 16:23:09)

couldn' t " sign in" to site. Site doesn' t allow me to open it live.

So - went to cmd anyway and tried the ping. Results:

Request Timed Out
Request Timed Out
Request Timed Out
Request Timed Out

Packets - sent = 4; Received = 0; Lost = 4



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 17:17:16)

quote:

what does THAT mean?


That means the server is not responding! Not good at all.

Do you know the server IP? Let me try - BRB

Well, I get the same thing - The ip of the server doesn' t respond either - none of this is a good thing [:j]



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 17:33:24)

so what is the best course of action?



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 17:47:51)

quote:

so what is the best course of action


Your call - but if you can' t get any satisfaction from the host, maybe it' s time to look for a new one...



Shirley -> RE: Fed Up! (5/9/2003 18:29:57)

I tried to check out the site and I got.....
leisure-ideas.com is currently off line for scheduled maintenance. Please check back later.

One reason I do not like asp and windoze servers.. if you are on a server with other sites with asp and one of those sites has some **** code it can screw up your site as well because the server is so clogged trying to run the bad code it slows down all asp on the server. When I was at Interland it was so bad for awhile that I had to call them everyday and tell them to re-boot or stop and start asp.



caywind -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 2:47:35)

Im getting a decent response from his server. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.leisure-ideas.com And a decent response from his host... http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/hosted?netname=vibus-ni,80.94.193.0,80.94.193.255 site is actually working, just says " the stupid error (who' s???) message" .

www.thehostfactory.net

re-think the ASP




Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 3:58:28)

so is php a better solution to asp or can i run into the same problems?



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 9:20:37)

quote:

so is php a better solution to asp or can i run into the same problems


That' s a loaded question [;)]

PHP cannot drain the resources of an entire server because of the way it processes requests. PHP is executed as a part of the web server process and requires no forking, unlike CGI scripts. I' ve no experience with PHP on a Windoze box, so can' t comment there.



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 9:27:33)

but the first advantage would be that it doesn' t require a win box, right?



Gil -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 11:09:23)

quote:

but the first advantage would be that it doesn' t require a win box, right


In my opinion - I' m sure others would/will disagree [8D]



caywind -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 15:36:31)

Quite frankly, at this point, I am making $0 investment in M$ or their technologies. Coincidentally, that' s what I' m investing in Linux right now too. Only with Linux I can get an entire desktop solution that runs on $300 worth of hardware.This applies to my clients, too. On the server side they are either moving to or considering Linux.



Doug G -> RE: Fed Up! (5/10/2003 18:23:56)

Windows and windows technology are not the problem. There are plenty of asp sites that work just fine (this one comes to mind).

The slowness of your site is probably due to either a coding problem in your asp code or a server administration/configuration/capacity problem with your isp.

Try a minimalist asp page:

<% response.write " The quick brown fox yada yada" %>

and then point your browser to this test page. Your response should be fast.

Something is wrong with your ping attempts. If you get timed out for all pings, the site is down or you are not pinging where you expect. Try pinging by ip address instead of url name.

If something is incorrect in your dns settings for the site that can cause many strange problems.

You can get cruddy isp' s in any os version [:)]



barking mad -> RE: Fed Up! (5/12/2003 7:44:35)

I see your site is still down

I use FastHosts here in the UK and have absolutely no problems with any of my FP & ASP enabled sites. I also use an IT/Internet services company to arrange all the behind the scenes admin.

Either contact them (FastHosts) direct or email me and I' ll give you a name of someone who organises it all for me.

Because I use a " middleman" I don' t make any money out of hosting but I do get
1 good support
2 no problems setting up adding features etc

best of luck

Chris



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/14/2003 4:44:39)

Thanks chris - I' ll check them out.



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/14/2003 4:46:45)

Thanks Doug - tell me what you think:

http://www.leisure-ideas.com/fox.asp

code is only: 

<% response.write " The quick brown fox yada yada"  %>



davids -> RE: Fed Up! (5/14/2003 6:06:28)

I notice that you are in the UK. Even though I' m in Belgium, I host in the UK at an outfit called Virtual Internet. I have used them to host ASP applications for a couple of years with no problems.
Besides the overloading of shared servers, there can be problems with the configuration of Windows hosts. I think it is best to use a company that hosts lots of Windows sites so they have people in the company who understand how to do things, and not just a Linux guy who is maintaining a Win server on the side.



Eli -> RE: Fed Up! (5/14/2003 7:44:09)


quote:

ORIGINAL: davids

I think it is best to use a company that hosts lots of Windows sites so they have people in the company who understand how to do things, and not just a Linux guy who is maintaining a Win server on the side.


thats a great point - thanks



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