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Transferring files to a server - 5/9/2003 17:00:57   
There is no option for UPLOADING files to a web server from Frontpage - it' s either FTP or Frontpage PUBLISH. Including which you use will speed up an response you may get from somone.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 5/10/2003 15:00:39   
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RE: Transferring files to a server - 5/10/2003 15:11:58   
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RE: Transferring files to a server - 5/29/2003 21:40:14   
Well, I' m not really sure. On my computer I go into FP, open my web, and click FP Publish. But then I enter my host name which is ftp://(numbers). Does that tell you whether it is FP Publish or ftp?

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 5/31/2003 11:41:00   
Upload = Transferring data (usually a file) from a the computer you are using to another computer. The opposite of download.

Another definition....To transmit data from a computer to a bulletin board service, mainframe, or network. For example, if you use a personal computer to log on to a network and you want to send files across the network, you must upload the files from your PC to the network.


FTP = Abbreviation of File Transfer Protocol, the protocol used on the Internet for sending files.

File Transfer Protocol, or FTP, is a protocol used to upload files from a workstation to a FTP server or download files from a FTP server to a workstation. It is the way that files get transferred from one device to another in order for the files to be available on the Internet. When ftp appears in a URL it means that the user is connecting to a file server and not a Web server and that some form of file transfer is going to take place. Most FTP servers require the user to log on to the server in order to transfer files.


FTP (File Transfer Protocol) A protocol used to transfer files over a TCP/IP network (Internet, UNIX, etc.). For example, after developing the HTML pages for a Web site on a local machine, they are typically uploaded to the Web server using FTP.

I forgot to add...
Publish is a Microsoft term/protocol used from within FrontPage to upload your files.
If you are using any features that require FrontPage extensions you MUST publish.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 5/31/2003 11:47:00   
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But then I enter my host name which is ftp://(numbers). Does that tell you whether it is FP Publish or ftp?



Well, that' s not the host name it' s the IP address. And the ftp means you are using FTP not Publishing.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/3/2003 4:13:45   
FQA on publishing, might work better here. Or A link to A
soruce that does have an FAQ on the topic.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/10/2003 8:25:15   
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There is no option for UPLOADING files to a web server from Frontpage - it' s either FTP or Frontpage PUBLISH.

I apologize if this seems like an ignorant question but if I have my site open live in FP and I open a folder on my HD and drag files from there to a folder on the site (which is open in FP with an http:// address not FTP://) am I FTPing my file(s)?:):)

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/11/2003 8:03:22   
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ORIGINAL: Mike54

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There is no option for UPLOADING files to a web server from Frontpage - it' s either FTP or Frontpage PUBLISH.

I apologize if this seems like an ignorant question but if I have my site open live in FP and I open a folder on my HD and drag files from there to a folder on the site (which is open in FP with an http:// address not FTP://) am I FTPing my file(s)?:):)


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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/15/2003 1:03:29   
I might be wrong but I think that is called a web folder.

For example you have a folder on your pc that is connected to your site, any modifications made to that folder are reflected on your site.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/15/2003 3:51:29   
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I might be wrong but I think that is called a web folder.

For example you have a folder on your pc that is connected to your site, any modifications made to that folder are reflected on your site.

web folders are for working with webs on your hard drive.

They are not synched or reflected until you publish them to a FrontPage enabled webserver

when you go to publish you should see " http://www.yourdomainname.com" on the address bar

when you copy the files from internet to your hard drive you use the http protocol

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/15/2003 4:36:40   
Sorry Boo.....

Web folders can be many things to many people.....depends on the circumstances...

I am not sure about using FP, but when you copy a file or folder to a web folder it IS updated or reflected on your web site there and then. That is the main reason for using a web folder. Changes made to your site are automatically reflected in your design.

When copying files to your hard drive, use the left click button. It does not always work but 90% of time, it does.

As I said, I am not sure about front page. I do know for a fact, that changes made to a web folder are automatically reflected on site.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/20/2003 8:31:02   
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As I said, I am not sure about front page. I do know for a fact, that changes made to a web folder are automatically reflected on site.



??????????????? Am I missing something here?

A web folder on your local drive is a directory. " Folder" is " Microsoft Speak" for " directory." They call " directories" " folders" because they use a desktop metaphor to make things easier for mere ordinary mortals like you and me :) to understand. A " web folder" is a directory to which certain attributes have been added so that the FP extensions can be implemented on FP webs hosted on web servers that support those extensions.

It is in other words a named area of physical storage containing binary data of some kind. If you make changes to that data using Frontpage* to data that is physically located on your local drive then you need Frontpage or some other mediating agent to transfer copies of that information to another named area of physical storage on a web server which is located somewhere else.

If you make changes " live" on the web server hosting your web then you are using Frontpage as a mediating agent to make changes there. There' s no simultaneity involved.

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*or any other editing program for that matter

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/20/2003 8:45:30   
Smiles,

When I was hosted under lycos, I had a web folder on my hard drive which linked to my site. It was in my network places. When I made changes to this folder my website updated. No need to FTP.


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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/20/2003 8:59:59   
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Smiles,

When I was hosted under lycos, I had a web folder on my hard drive which linked to my site. It was in my network places. When I made changes to this folder my website updated. No need to FTP.


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Ya it was linked

IOW you were using a piece of software to mediate between the two places. Possibly you were doing this all unawares.


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RE: Transferring files to a server - 6/21/2003 2:03:04   
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IOW you were using a piece of software to mediate between the two places. Possibly you were doing this all unawares.


No kidding sherlock!....dhu I had no idea that some software was being used for the data transfer. If it helps, I also had to be online for the process to work.:)



Well then I glad you agree. I neither used an FTP program as such or FP to update my site. Good old copy and paste and my site was updated.

A copy of XP and the process was seamless what does an end user care what precise method of on or off state a server microchip has to be enabled to.

It was copy and paste to a web folder, just as I stated.

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Same Question - Maybe? - 7/10/2003 15:03:20   
This may run along the same lines...
I don' t know a whole lot about FP but I did but FP Inside Out 2002.
Now, I am overwhelmed by the 1200+ pages.
I have a small site hosted by Earthlink.
From the moment I created, it was always on their side, not on my H/D.
All the changes have been live (stupid I know) on their side.
Now I wish to overhaul the entire site, structure and all.
How can I Synchronize an exact copy of the site onto my h/d so when
I make changes on my side it automatically updates on their side?
What is the technical term for what I wish to accomplish?
If I know that, I can peruse the 1200+ page book for the answers?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?

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RE: Same Question - Maybe? - 7/10/2003 15:18:25   
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Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?


You can' t. Full stop. No if' s, no buts, no maybes. You can' t. There is no such thing as simultaneity. Full stop. Which is what my colleague (and grandson) Karsten was very restrainedly pointing out.

To solve your problem.

1. Open the web on the server.

2. Then PUBLISH it to somewhere on your hard disk.

3. Make your changes on that local copy of the web.

4. PUBLISH the changes back to the server.

That' s all there is to it.

I hope this helps you a little.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 7/10/2003 15:20:32   
Oh, And by the way welcome to Outfront which apart from being the source of a wealth of information also is one of the nicest places on the net.

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RE: Transferring files to a server - 7/23/2003 7:12:41   
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1. Open the web on the server.

2. Then PUBLISH it to somewhere on your hard disk.

3. Make your changes on that local copy of the web.

4. PUBLISH the changes back to the server.


Thankyou so much for this simple instruction.
I' ve been using FP2000 for 2 weeks now and you wouldn' t believe how much I' ve struggled to make alterations without changing the web held on the server. I always ended up with live alterations somehow or other.:)

Cheers

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