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c1sissy -> CSS1/CSS2 (5/27/2003 9:17:58)
I purchased 2 books on css. One of them only goes over css1. Should I learn both? I know that css2 followed css1, so is it good to learn the first? thanks.

bobby -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/27/2003 10:20:55)
They' re pretty much the same thing... CSS2 just added things to CSS1, it' s a newer standard. It would be the same thing as buying a book on HTML 3... since 4 is the current standard (I think, I' ve been away for a while... [;)]) If you learn how to manage and manipulate CSS1 you won' t have any trouble adapting to CSS2 IMO.CSS2 isn' t supported by older browsers, and many of its features aren' t supported by newer ones either... There are lists available that tell you which standard of CSS a particular feature was created under... and which browsers support them... www.w3schools.com is about the best I' ve found.

abbeyvet -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/27/2003 10:30:35)
CSS2 is basically an expansion of CSS1, so learning CSS1 will give you a good grounding. Having said that I am not sure that buying a book that only does CSS1 is the most economical thing to do, since a CSS2 book would probably cover exactly the same ground before going on to do more. I would take it easy with CSS. Start by just aiming to get all <font> tags off your pages, by applying paragraph and header styles. That really is a great first step for 2 reasons. One it will get a lot of code off your pages and two it will give you a feel for how the whole thing works.

bobby -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/27/2003 11:57:27)
That is excellent advice... don' t do it the way I did. I started off learning layer positioning for page layout [:j] It took me a long time... though by the time I got it somewhat figured out the fonts and horizontal rule styles were a breeze [:)]

c1sissy -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/27/2003 15:47:46)
Thanks guys, I' ll pop in later with the names of the two books. The one on css1 of course is an older one,(I believe that the pub date was 2000) it mentions css2 and that most browesers at the time of the writing of the book don' t support css2. Long day spent at hospt with 19 year old with strep throat. Amazes me how long it takes to get through that place. A whole day wasted and I' m tired! Never got to work today, and have to go to office to print bills tonight, and am soooooo tired. Need a nice large nap! lol Pop in later with the names of the two books. I actually purchased these before this forum started or I would have checked in here before purchasing them. Oh well. no biggie right?[;)] btw, css doesn' t really look hard lol better whisper that one lol.

pageoneresults -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 0:25:09)
The current spec is [url=" http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/about.html" ]CSS 2.1[/url] with [url=" http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-roadmap/" ]CSS 3[/url] not too far off in the distant future. Reading any of the books will be of benefit. Just be sure not to skip over the chapters. If you do, you may miss out on some important information that you' ll end up coming back to reference at a later date, when it is too late! ;) P.S. You might want to purchase a CSS program like TopStyle Pro or something similar. Reading and performing tests at the same time will really help to make it all click. Also, the program is going to offer you a default set of styles that are proven cross platform compatible. I haven' t used a program since the beginning, but, I hear that TopStyle is definitely the one to have in your design toolbox.

c1sissy -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 8:07:29)
Hi, thanks for the information page one. The two books that I have are Cascading Style Sheets the difinitive guide, by ORiley pubs, and Sams learn Css in 24 hours. Along with the books I' ll also look on line at some tutorials that I have marked because I have noticed that sometimes the tutorials online might have something explained a bit more then the books and vice versa. It sort of reinforces things for me. I' m signed up for one tutorila at about.com for css. The sams book talks about css3 a bit, not much, just that it is in the works. I" m surprised though that css isn' t more widely used considering the mention of when it was written. I have been debating on which way to go after grasping totally html. XHTML, xml, etc... but it seems like the style sheets make more sense to learn right now.

Gil -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 9:21:57)
quote: The current spec is CSS 2.1 with CSS 3 not too far off in the distant future. Unless the W3C decides to abandon CSS in favor XSL? HTML was abandon in favor of XML...

c1sissy -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 9:36:08)
quote: HTML was abandon in favor of XML... Was it really abandoned or was it merged? Just curious from what I had read I thought that it was more merged then abandoned. Always learning! (lol, might add that one to my sig!)[;)]

Gil -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 9:45:49)
quote: Was it really abandoned or was it merged Abandoned in the sense there is to be no further work on HTML There was to be a HTML 5.0, but this was dropped in favor of movving all work to XML. The " merge" was the creation of XHTML - a transional way to get from HTML to XML. It only makes sense to drop further development of CSS and move to XSL.

c1sissy -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 9:57:34)
quote: It only makes sense to drop further development of CSS and move to XSL. At this rate, I' ll be forever teaching myself!!!! roflol![;)]

bobby -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 10:15:07)
Those newer markup languages are the future, but don' t worry... it' ll be a very long time before CSS and HTML are abandoned by the development community... [;)]

Gil -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 10:29:42)
quote: Those newer markup languages are the future, but don' t worry... it' ll be a very long time before CSS and HTML are abandoned by the development community... I didn' t mean to imply they would abandoned by developers - just no further versions should be coming.

bobby -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 11:24:17)
Sorry Gil, I didn' t mean to imply that your statement was inacurate... I knew what you meant. [;)] I just wanted to make sure that your statement didn' t spook Deb [:p] I need to be more specific in my posts sometimes... [8\|]

c1sissy -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 11:40:21)
quote: I just wanted to make sure that your statement didn' t spook Deb [:D][:D][:D] Now, do I seem like the type of person to spook easily? roflol!!! quote: I need to be more specific in my posts sometimes... hmm, I seem to have the same problem bobby. lol. How is the new bb, and mom doign?????

Gil -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 11:52:41)
Hey Bobby, I was not clear in my original post - I' m glad you clarified it. Thanks...

bobby -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 12:12:07)
New baby is grumpy... he has a cold. Going to see the Dr. today, hopefully it will help him sleep. He was up for a long time last evening, then I was up with him until about 3 am. yawn I read last night that newborns don' t develop a regular sleep pattern until their first month or so... I' m counting the minutes [&o]

c1sissy -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/28/2003 12:36:47)
Bobby: My #2 son had colic, 9 months! Talk about lack of sleep??!! I thought that I would never have a full nights sleep ever again. He was also an allergy baby, I couldn' t even nurse him he was so bad with the allergies. We tried everything, almost had to go to goats milk! (I had to drink that when I was a bb) The formula that finally agreed with him, now this is 20 years ago, cost 84.00 a month to feed him. I think sometimes adjusting to having the 2 babies is what it comes down to. It is an adjustment for everyone. you your wife child #1, and child#2 just lays there and waits for everyone else to get it right! I' m sorry to hear that bb has a cold. I' m sure though that he will be ok. update please!

bobby -> RE: CSS1/CSS2 (5/29/2003 11:39:58)
Just a cold Deb... hopefully in a couple days things will settle down for the little man (and Mommy and Daddy too [;)]) Thanks [:)]

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