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Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/29/2003 19:42:22 Okay, I have been trying to do password on my webpages, but i cant figure out how. When i try going into Tools and the Server, Server is a menu that will not let me into it. It is grey and very annoying, Does anyone know how to fix that, please only reply if you do know how, because i have this set to Notify me via e-mail when someone replies. Please help me, and, if you will you can tell me how to by e-mail, my e-mail adress is Ender_AC@hotmail.com Thank you!. _____________________________ Enderwiggin Wasnt here


Swirl Posts: 2705 From: Cincinnati, Ohio USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/29/2003 21:05:01 You have to open your site live on the server in order for the security settings to be available. Swirl _____________________________ Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens. -- Jimi Hendrix (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 0:20:42 Okay, i tried that, Thanks, but it still did not work, Maybe i understood what you said wrong somehoiw, can you explain how step by step please? Thanks (in reply to Enderwiggin)


mbmunday Posts: 162 Joined: 8/8/2002 From: North Richland Hills, Texas Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 6:07:47 Did you try, " File" , " Open Web" , then type in " http://www.mydomain.com" in the web name field at the bottom of the window? If you haven' t, try that. This should open your site " live" on the server. From there, you should be able to select " Tools," " Server" and " Permissions." MB (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Larry M. Posts: 2606 Joined: 2/20/2003 From: Greenville, South Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 12:54:34 <<Did you try, " File" , " Open Web" , then type in " http://www.mydomain.com" in the web name field at the bottom of the window? If you haven' t, try that. This should open your site " live" on the server. From there, you should be able to select " Tools," " Server" and " Permissions." >> MB, I' m following this thread trying to learn something for future reference. The above steps do get me into my site and, you' re right, the " Tools," " Server" and " Permissions" menus are activated. It seems, however, the " Permissions" command applies to a global site password rather than a selected page. Right? Wrong? If I' m wrong, how do you use this process to select a password or " Permission" for visitors to enter a specified page which, I think, prompted the original question? Thanks! _____________________________ Larry M. A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at that moment. (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 13:02:49 I just tried that, thanks but, it says " The folder " http://multisite.netfirms.com/" is not accessible. The folder may be located in an unavailable location, protected with a password, or the filename contains a / or \. Ahh damn, Thanks, please reply, i will be trying to fix it till then, bye Maybe it is because i am using a free service, I need ta get a job. :P (in reply to Enderwiggin)


mbmunday Posts: 162 Joined: 8/8/2002 From: North Richland Hills, Texas Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 14:45:49 Larry-you are correct - let me correct myself.......It' s been a while since I' ve used this feature. You' ll need to have a subweb created on the live site. Open the subweb (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/myrestrictedarea/), and once that' s open, select " Tools" and " Server" " Permissions." This will only change the permissions in that subweb/directory. Sorry about that. MB (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 14:51:49 quote: Maybe it is because i am using a free service, I think you' re right _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to Enderwiggin)


beamz Posts: 4 Joined: 6/30/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 15:43:00 If I may jump in here, I am having a similar problem. After opening the subweb live, then Permissions, I get an error that I do not have permission for this operation. I am supposed to have the web admin (I thought that was me!) change my permissions or log in with a different account. To my knowledge we only have 1 account and password. In the administrative area I have the same issue. I can' t create a new user or manage users because the login/password aren' t accepted. So far the only thing I' ve tried succesfully is creating a subweb from the admin screen. Do I have something set wrong in FP or is this an issue with my host? It isn' t a free account but I' m not sure how much access we' re allowed. We' re using FP2002 extensions if that helps. Speaking of extensions, there was a warning somewhere about using FTP to upload FP files as it would corrupt (I think) the extensions. I' m afraid this may have happened since we switched to FP recently and the first time or two stuck with FTP. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. (in reply to Enderwiggin)

Gil

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RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 15:45:57

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Do I have something set wrong in FP or is this an issue with my host? It isn' t a free account but I' m not sure how much access we' re allowed. We' re using FP2002 extensions if that helps.

Sounds like you are on a WIN server?

quote:

I' m afraid this may have happened since we switched to FP recently and the first time or two stuck with FTP.

Could be - reinstall (or have your host if needed) the extensions, just to be safe...

_____________________________

Gil Harvey, 1947-2004

(in reply to beamz)


beamz Posts: 4 Joined: 6/30/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 15:51:46 um, I' m showing how little I know here. Which is an teeny tiny bit. By Win you mean windows as opposed to Unix? I' m off to play around with the extensions. (in reply to Enderwiggin)


beamz Posts: 4 Joined: 6/30/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 15:52:32 and thank you for replying so quickly! (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 16:10:00 quote: By Win you mean windows as opposed to Unix? Yep - Windows servers are so insecure host do not allow users to set premissions. _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to beamz)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 16:27:59 Okay this sadly is getting confusing, So what is it that i have to do exactly? (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 16:39:44 quote: Okay this sadly is getting confusing, So what is it that i have to do exactly? Are you on WIN or nix? If you are a WIN server, you' ll need to get the server admin to set premissions for you. If you on a nix server you can do it by connecting live. _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to Enderwiggin)


mbmunday Posts: 162 Joined: 8/8/2002 From: North Richland Hills, Texas Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 16:49:53 If you are on a Windows server, forget FrontPage' s security and go with Spooky' s login MB (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 17:24:17 I am not sure which one, it is free though, I dont know :\| damn (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 17:25:11 Oh and 1 more thing, where do you get spooky' s login? (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 17:39:07 quote: I am not sure which one, it is free though, I dont know What' s the URL? _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Larry M. Posts: 2606 Joined: 2/20/2003 From: Greenville, South Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 17:54:54 <<You' ll need to have a subweb created on the live site. Open the subweb (i.e. http://www.mydomain.com/myrestrictedarea/), and once that' s open, select " Tools" and " Server" " Permissions." This will only change the permissions in that subweb/directory>> MB & Gil, Your input just caused the light bulb to go on! Calling-up a subweb on the live site then electing select " Tools" and " Server" " Permissions" does allow not only the addition of a new user but it also permits selection of a new users role from " Administrator" (no way) descending in responsibility to " Advanced Author" , to " Author" , to " Browser Only" . I see this as the answer to allowing input/maintenance from several different departments, each with their own user name/password/user authority without compromising the integrity of the main company site ... ah, at least on Unix. In fact, Administrator access to one of my sites using " Tools" and " Server" " Permissions" let me look so deep I was at the Engineer level (example: recalculate FP extensions) - I cancelled out right away! In closing, I think beamz problems are host related, possibly because of FTP versus publishing via FrontPage. I really don' t think we got off the original thread here - just expanded on it. Thanks so much! _____________________________ Larry M. A liberal is a person whose interests aren't at stake at that moment. (in reply to Enderwiggin)


abbeyvet Posts: 5095 From: Kilkenny Ireland Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 19:30:02 Another reason this can happen is that when or if you update the password or username you use to access some hosting control panels, the FrontPage username and/or password are not properly updated. They can be updated manually if this happens, but you need root access to the server to do it by either Telnet or SSH. _____________________________ Katherine :: InKK Design :: InKK Domains (in reply to Enderwiggin)


mbmunday Posts: 162 Joined: 8/8/2002 From: North Richland Hills, Texas Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 6/30/2003 19:32:31 quote: Oh and 1 more thing, where do you get spooky' s login? Right here: http://www.frontpagecommerce.com/shop/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=7&cat=Cool+Tools Very powerful and very easy to use. MB (in reply to Enderwiggin)


beamz Posts: 4 Joined: 6/30/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/2/2003 15:54:48 hmm I am on a windows server. " windows basic" is my plan and it seems all the issues with passwords and managing users is ' cuz of this. So my options are to either upgrade to unix or use Spooky Login? Spooky Login seems like an easier quick fix. If I can' t find any other benefits to chaning to unix (I' m sure there are but we' re a small site!) I' ll use it. Also, EW, I' d go with spooky login just to make life easier. Hell, I may use it only to make MY life easier. Thanks for the help guys. Rhonda (in reply to Enderwiggin)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/2/2003 16:08:36 Make sure your host supports ASP, or the Spooky Login won' t be of any use to you... Most free web hosts do not support server side scripting. _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/8/2003 17:43:38 I created a page and tried to make a Registration form handler, but it doesnt work, to see it for yourself, goto http://greatgames.distanthost.com/ and click Become a member (under construction) It does not work, please tell me why! (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/8/2003 17:50:07 AHHHH!!!!! First I get: This page uses frames, but your browser doesn' t support them. And sorry the No Frames page is, under construction So, against my better judgement I switch to IE and get a blast of noise so load it almost knocked me out of my chair! Sorry, I' m out of here... _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Mike54 Posts: 4772 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: online	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/8/2003 17:51:23 quote: Create a user registration form to protect and monitor your web site Some of the content in this topic may not be applicable to some languages. Note Only the UNIX operating system allows registration through a Web browser. To protect and monitor your web site, you must first create a registration form and then set up how you want to protect and monitor your site. Create a user registration form. How? Set how you want to protect your web site. How? Next, add the users to the web, adding users for browse, author, and administer access separately. How? Note Microsoft Windows 2000 security and Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) do not allow registration through a Web browser. It was nice of MS to offer the possibility through FP but it doesn' t work on their software. LOL (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Mike54 Posts: 4772 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: online	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/8/2003 17:54:05 quote: So, against my better judgement I switch to IE and get a blast of noise so loud it almost knocked me out of my chair! ha ha ha ha ha ha! Turn your speakers down Gil. (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Enderwiggin Posts: 15 Joined: 6/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/8/2003 18:25:35 Can you explain how to get that to work? (in reply to Enderwiggin)


Mike54 Posts: 4772 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: online	RE: Problems with the Tools/Server menu - 7/8/2003 18:51:05 quote: Can you explain how to get that to work? Well you can use the volume control on the speakers themselves if available or you can use I' m sorry but I couldn' t resist! As for the registration form offered by FP unless you are hosted on Unix according to MS you can' t use it. I didn' t stick around your site too long as the music was also too loud for my old ears but you might be able to set up an area that requires users to log in for access. You can check out the Spooky login or this login script from another source and see if they can fit into your scheme. (in reply to Enderwiggin)