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_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	Please take a look - 7/16/2003 13:38:59 Some Outfronters were kind enough to provide input when I first started designing this site for an aspiring model. I know it needs tweaking but, for the most part, the site is complete. I would appreciate any feedback you care to provide. http://www.alexandrablakely.com as always, thanks. gail IMPORTANT! Please read prior to viewing the site: - at this time, the site [previously] contain[ed] one artistic photograph containing nudity. - some of you may recall there was a young lady with the username Alexandra who caused problems at Outfront. I believe she was banned from further participation in these forums. This is NOT the same Alexandra. < Message edited by _gail -- 7/21/2003 12:10:44 AM > _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography


gorilla Posts: 2974 From: Denmark Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 14:00:59 Designwise - no issues, I like the design a lot. I remember seeing this site before and thinking how lovely it was. This time I had a quick look using NN4.78 (unix) - believe me if it looks good on that it will good on anything. It' s a beautifully done site. I hope you' re proud of it, because you certainly should be. Thank you for Gail posting it - its always a pleasure to see what a skilled designer can do with a good " topic." I think you handled the site for a very lovely looking young woman with great sensitivity and skill. Seeing the result of your work was a very nice end to a slightly stressful day. Thor. Copenhagen Denmark July 16th 2003 _____________________________ Mh�ircaish Signature self-censored to protect the sensibilities of the thin-skinned . May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. � Dwight D. Eisenhower (in reply to _gail)


Mike54 Posts: 4782 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 15:03:09 I can' t seem to find anything to " critique" . The site is simple yet elegant, nice work _gail. I trust that you didn' t have anything to do with the Genuine Films site. _____________________________ Who was the first guy that looked at a cow and said, "I think that I'll drink whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them"? New photogalleries, stop by sometime. (in reply to _gail)


barry Posts: 742 Joined: 6/26/2002 From: Baltimore, MD Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 15:13:41 Gail, Wonderful site! I like it alot! You did a wonderful job. Sometimes looking at Pros work makes me just want to go home and look at the classifieds! - quote: at this time, the site contains one artistic photograph containing nudity I looked for 5 minutes I did not see any hehe On the about resume page the scroll bar did not change colors like on the other pages. Barry < Message edited by barry -- 7/16/2003 3:17:25 PM > (in reply to _gail)

_gail

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RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 15:23:28

Thanks for the feedback. I have a few specific questions:

Does it bother or inconvenience you that there are no links along the top of pages?

Does it bother you that some of the links jump around a bit when you go from page to page? Unless it' s a major annoy, I may just leave as is.

An Outfronter mentioned off-board that some of the black in the professionally-taken photos do not match the black background. YUK! They match perfectly on my monitor. If they don' t match on yours, how bad is it? I have no idea how to fix such a problem...not to into color profiles, monitor calibration or whatever. If the blacks don�t match, any suggestions about what to do?

Can you see the light gray text well-enough?

thanks again!

gail

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Sometimes looking at Pros work makes me just want to go home and look at the classifieds!

Pro? I don' t even know what a cgi-bin is! Hey, Gary, I' ve looked at your sites and really like them!

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at this time, the site contains one artistic photograph containing nudity

I looked for 5 minutes I did not see any hehe

Hmmm, five minutes?!

Well it' s there. Whaddaya think... that I' m going to post a direct link to it?!

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Mike54

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RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 15:40:06

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Does it bother or inconvenience you that there are no links along the top of pages?

At 1024 x 768 (IE 6) there is little or no scroll so the menu is right there, I don' t have to look for it. Odd but in Mozilla the pages seem even smaller at the same rez setting (and there are no scroll bars anywhere).

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Does it bother you that some of the links jump around a bit when you go from page to page?

But it' s not " major" , just my own fussiness.

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Well it' s there.

ROTFL what b' day was that _gail? Nudity indeed.

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Who was the first guy that looked at a cow and said, "I think that I'll drink whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them"?

New photogalleries, stop by sometime.

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_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 16:01:34 quote: ROTFL what b' day was that _gail? Nudity indeed. Last years birthday. Sheesh, I wish. If I ever in my entire life looked half that good I' d be modelling instead of sitting in front of a computer monitor. gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to Mike54)


barry Posts: 742 Joined: 6/26/2002 From: Baltimore, MD Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 16:05:26 quote: Pro? I don' t even know what a cgi-bin is! Hey, Gary, I' ve looked at your sites and really like them! yup i like Gary' s work also. Classifieds here I come Barry I still don' t see no nakedness hehe (in reply to _gail)


Mike54 Posts: 4782 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 16:09:39 quote: Classifieds here I come Oh now Barry, your stuff isn' t so bad. Don' t chuck it all now. _____________________________ Who was the first guy that looked at a cow and said, "I think that I'll drink whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them"? New photogalleries, stop by sometime. (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/16/2003 16:26:13 quote: yup i like Gary' s work also. Classifieds here I come Ooops so sorry. Barry! I emailed a client yesterday named Gary...who doesn' t know a hill of beans about web design, so possibly the reason my goof. I was CERTAINLY talking about your work, Garry....er....Bary.....well, you know what I mean! gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to barry)


erinatkins Posts: 3072 From: Mechanicsville VA USA Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/17/2003 14:51:04 Gail, This site looks great. Navigation moving on bottom is not that bad. Erin _____________________________ All Hail Great Spooky - Master of the Outfront Forums. He can make you or break you. (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/17/2003 16:14:20 quote: Navigation moving on bottom is not that bad. The main problem is the Portolio link but I think I just about, though not quite, fixed it. At least I think it' s better than it has been. Any other suggestions would be appreciated! thanks, gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to erinatkins)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/17/2003 16:23:00 Gail - beautiful! I guess it' s my 56 year old eyes - but it took me a few minutes of squinting to see there were links - I would like a little more contrast... _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/18/2003 12:24:48 quote: but it took me a few minutes of squinting to see there were links - I would like a little more contrast... Thanks, gil. I took your suggestion and your word " little" literally. Is this contrast at all better? I want people to be able to see the links, but not have their eyes overly drawn to the bottom of the screen. http://www.alexandrablakely.com gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to Gil)


UMnath Posts: 27 Joined: 6/23/2003 From: Troy, MI Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/18/2003 13:23:42 Those links pop out a lot more quote: I want people to be able to see the links, but not have their eyes overly drawn to the bottom of the screen. Nothing to worry about there....something else has my utmost attention! Neil (in reply to _gail)


Gil Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/18/2003 13:30:32 It' s still hard for me to see - but that' s just me. It is better and I did notice there was ' something' there. I agree with Neil - no problem with anyone' s eyes being drawn away fro the subject _____________________________ Gil Harvey, 1947-2004 (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/18/2003 13:38:22 quote: quote: I want people to be able to see the links, but not have their eyes overly drawn to the bottom of the screen. Nothing to worry about there....something else has my utmost attention ! Youse guys!! I never even thought about that. LOL! g _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to UMnath)


rumblepup Posts: 116 Joined: 1/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/18/2003 16:54:56 gail Sorry I' m late on this one. Beautiful site. The best part is that you certainly know your business. The model is definitely the star of the site, and everything is built around promoting her, yet with a very subtle touch. Not too much of a problem with the nav, ' cause (as stated before) my attention was drawn elsewhere. .. .. .. Ok, I admit it. My attention was COMMANDED elsewhere. So, admitting my appreciation for a beautiful woman, your site is a beautiful frame work for her, and leads a viewer to want to learn more. Good job on limiting the original artwork. The images are taking space, so you didn' t clutter up the page or the page size with nav buttons. Plus the simple elegance of text links is great. .. .. .. MAN! What a pretty girl! (Sorry gail, that was the last one, I' m just a healthy young man) _____________________________ Outdoor Furniture Cushions (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/19/2003 9:38:15 Thank you all for your kind words; I have a beautiful subject to work with so it makes the job easy. I have a few more, and related, questions about the links. I create for 800 X 600 (though I test at higher resolutions). The site displays fine for me but I know others may use more toolbars than I do (two) at the top of their browsers. If they use a free browser which includes ads, such as Opera, more real estate is taken up which pushes the bottom links slightly out of view> Some some may have to scroll to get to the navagation, which is only located at the bottom of the screen. Do you think this is a major problem? I' ve been thinking about adding links to the top of pages (except the first). From an aesthetic standpoint I' d hate to do this, but should I? thanks again, gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to _gail)


Mike54 Posts: 4782 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/19/2003 11:47:06 Hi _gail, I took a quick look in Opera 6.05 and 7 at 1024 x 768 and there was no scroll involved. 800 x 600 was something of a different story but then that wouldn' t affect me. _____________________________ Who was the first guy that looked at a cow and said, "I think that I'll drink whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them"? New photogalleries, stop by sometime. (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/19/2003 16:19:41 quote: 800 x 600 was something of a different story but then that wouldn' t affect me Well, I guess you indirectly answered my question. I suppose I should add additonal links somewhere...not sure if or where though. again, I appreciate all the input. It' s been helpful and jogs the thought process. gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to Mike54)


Mike54 Posts: 4782 Joined: 3/26/2001 From: Way Up Over Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/19/2003 16:27:39 Sorry _gail, the serious answer was in my head but I obviously didn' t send it down to my fat fingers. What I had wanted to add was that though it might require a " little" bit of scrolling down to get to the menu I don' t think it would absolutely require additional links. In fact since the pages are generally brief it would probably be overkill. MHOO Sorry for not answering fully before. _____________________________ Who was the first guy that looked at a cow and said, "I think that I'll drink whatever comes out of those things when I squeeze them"? New photogalleries, stop by sometime. (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/19/2003 17:02:51 There is absolutely nothing to apologize for! Your (and others) sticking with me providing continual feedback helps jog my thought process. Don' t recall those who mentioned form and function in another thread recently, but I' ve been concentrating on form and needed to think through more about function. I also need to broaden my thinking about how this will view in various browsers as far as how they may be set up with toolbars, etc. So I made a good backup of the site before I started playing: I' ve added temporary links at the top of two pages and will experiment with different colors and size. Maybe something will click (though Gil will have to take his sun glasses off to see the current links). Besides, with links on the top I don' t have to fuss so much with the ones jumping around on the bottom of the screen. http://www.alexandrablakely.com/about.htm http://www.alexandrablakely.com/jazan.html Now that you see it, do you think the top links are an overkill? gail Thumbnail Image Attachment (1) < Message edited by _gail -- 7/19/2003 6:39:46 PM > _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to Mike54)


rumblepup Posts: 116 Joined: 1/29/2003 Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/19/2003 17:46:43 The links on top are kind-of, sort-of, maybe just a little bit overkill. They don' t detract from the design, but they are not really adding to it either. I was looking at the site and was wondering something. On the pages that have a lot of contextual text, why not throw that text into an I-frame, so that you can keep the continuity of the site? It works as-is, but it looks like your a little bothered by the links not being in the same place when you go to another page. Now that I think about it, maybe you can switch all of the links from the bottom to the top. Lighten the color of the links, kill the bottom links, and you no longer have a problem with the links on the bottom not being consistent. On the other side of that same coin, you might kill you intended layout. So as a wise person once told me " six in one hand, half a dozen in the other." (psst. you' re the wise person) < Message edited by rumblepup -- 7/19/2003 5:47:26 PM > _____________________________ Outdoor Furniture Cushions (in reply to _gail)


gorilla Posts: 2974 From: Denmark Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/20/2003 8:14:22 Various of us looked different resolutions various browsers - including opera with ads. Beautiful site about a beautiful young woman. The consensus was summed up by Thor' s wife: quote: What a beautful young woman, and how lucky for her to find a sensitive portraitist. Wolf Sternberg Spokesgorilla for the weekend because Thor is busy burying the evidence. _____________________________ Mh�ircaish Signature self-censored to protect the sensibilities of the thin-skinned . May we never confuse honest dissent with disloyal subversion. � Dwight D. Eisenhower (in reply to _gail)


wattle Posts: 254 Joined: 3/31/2003 From: Australia Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/20/2003 19:46:13 Hi Gail, a truly beautiful site I' m one of those using 800 x 600 with extra tool bars etc and do have to scroll down to see the links. It did not bother me at all. The models name is cut off a little bit, but again, that was not really an issue except that I was not able to see your lovely page as it deserves to be seen. I choose to have a couple of tool bars so I expect to have to scroll on some sites.... In my opinion, the links you have added to the top of those pages certainly do not detract from the site and look just fine. This is more a work of art than a website Just wonderful. Wattle _____________________________ ~ Wattle ~ Anyone who says that they can contemplate quantum mechanics without becoming dizzy has not understood the concept in the least. Niels Bohr (in reply to _gail)


Charles W Davis Posts: 1725 Joined: 3/7/2002 From: Henderson Nevada USA Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/20/2003 22:15:06 Gail, Even a old geezer like myself can appreciate a beautiful girl... er... web site. One comment, I couln' t figure out who the photographer was. I was teased by the words: " Photo by" Thumbnail Image Attachment (1) _____________________________ Enjoy! It' s your endeavor! http://www.anthemwebs.com (in reply to _gail)


_gail Posts: 2876 From: So FL Status: offline	RE: Please take a look - 7/21/2003 0:07:59 Thanks all. I' ve seriously considered and/or incorporated all the fine suggestions made in this thread and by those who critiqued by email. Excellent input which I appreciate. Even did an bit of photo editing in photoshop. Love that clone stamp! gail _____________________________ Digicamhelp - Easiest place on the web to learn about Digit@l Cameras & Photography (in reply to _gail)

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