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making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 7:39:02
hi there,
im not brand new to html but im not quite adapt at using frontpage 2000. im trying to make a form. All the fields are there more or less and i found that easy to do,
then i inserted a reset and submit button and this is where the problem arose.
the reset works fine but the submit does not and at this moment in time i havent got the foggiest idea as to how to make it work. I constanty get the same error message, or failed message, ive uploaded this to my website so u can check urself whats going on, even view source could be the easiest way.
http://www.thesnookerclub.com/elitebeta.htm
dont worry about no menues and stuff cause this page will go under the main menu on www.thesnookerclub.com
any help would be greatly appreciated.
regards
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 8:42:07
hi mike,
thanks for ur really quick reply,
ive changed the file creation location but this was not really the problem i belive, im trying to activate the form using the submit button. Had to change that location in notepad actually as FP automatically changes this location whenever i save the file using FP. (even tho ive set the location in the form properties section)
and the code it looks to utilise doing this; is this one i think ;
<form method=" POST" name=" Beta tester form" action=" --WEBBOT-SELF--" >
<!--webbot bot=" SaveResults"
U-File=" www.thesnookerclub.com\mainwebsite_html\form_results.txt"
S-Format=" TEXT/PRE" S-Label-Fields=" TRUE" B-Reverse-Chronology=" FALSE"
S-Email-Format=" TEXT/PRE" S-Email-Address=" ivan@thesnookerclub.com"
B-Email-Label-Fields=" TRUE" B-Email-Subject-From-Field=" FALSE"
S-Email-Subject=" beta form" S-Builtin-Fields
S-Form-Fields=" Name Username Email why pastexperience1 pastexperience2 experiencefield forumcheck compskill snookerplay snookerplay2 "
-->
when you click the submit ull see it fails to activate and i simply dont understand this code well enough to see whats wrong with it.
regards ivan
P.S this is one fine group i must say, ill be doing my utmost to help people if questions arise that i can answer..(sadly i cant answer much when i comes to FP)
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 9:08:38
how the **** did i manage to do that... thats one fine mistake to do... oh well, corrected that but it makes no difference,
when u click on " submit" i see that the address bar refers to this " webbot-self" thing and i belive this to be connected to the problem...
regards..
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 9:24:41
When you point the form to the results page are you using the browse button to track down the results page or are you just typing it in. If you' re typing it in try browsing to it instead. Then go to tools and recalculate hyperlinks and see if that helps.
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 10:27:25
well, the form has two confirm pages,
one successfull and one failed one. Problem is tho that the page that it shows (error page, page cant be found) is showing before the form is being submitted or the confirm page even loads. so this is why i belive the problem to be in the action code that initialize the saving of the form and the displaying of the confirm page.... and this webbot-self code is the only one i dont really know how works so thats why i assume the problem to lie with that... also since when u try to activate the submit button it fails and the address bar shows this webbot thing as where it fails...
i have no problems linking pages together, that ive done a million times... just this from code generated by frontpage i dont understand... im at a loss and cant quite understand why it doesnt work as its been made from scratch using FP......
regards
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 10:34:52
Did you publish the page or FTP it?
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 10:41:39
i FTP everything to the site, u can see the rest of the webpage has been made in notepad and im seriously considering going back to that as i find frontpage very frustrating to work with right now...im installing a 2002 edition for XP now to see if that could make a difference.
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 12:11:32
Hi Borat,
I see you changed your file from so it is no longer pointing to C: as Mike54 suggested.
I still think the file name is the major problem. You currently have the following set for file http://www.thesnookerclub.com/mainwebsite_html/form_results.txt
I would suggest changing this to simply _private/form_results.txt
In addition, look in your _private folder to be sure the file form_results does indeed exist. Other than that, the form looks ok.
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 12:24:48
hi gorilla and michael,
the file does not get created by itself, so either i have to do it, which i did, which was also the reason it pointed to C; to begin with as i make my webpages here before posting em. I belive the problem is that the file creation doesnt start but offcourse i may very well be wrong. Also, even if the form_result.txt doesnt exist the page should still load only thing that shouldnt happen as i see it is that the form gets sent, but ive changed the destination to root:_private/form_result.txt to check if it could help. in now gonna read this article that gorilla kindly referred me to.
thnx everyone for helping me, i very much appreciate u people using ur spare time to help a daft person like me who cant even make a form work :)
regards
ivan
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 12:50:35
For a FrontPage form to work it MUST be published, NOT FTPed to the server.
There is NO WAY of making it work without publishing. Once you have published the issues with the file names and so on will rectify themselves.
If you do no wish to publish, then you will need to use some other formhandler to handle the form, you cannot use FP.
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 13:53:01
but is should still work locally on my computer tho shouldnt it?
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 14:29:21
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but is should still work locally on my computer tho shouldnt it?
Not unles you PUBLISH it to a SERVER on your local computer
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 14:45:10
server extensions ARE ALREADY installed on the server the page is on. It doesn' t work because it was no published.
Other than from idle interest there is no reason why you should want it to work locally. Even if you do install extensions on a sever locally you will still have to publish to the server , wherever it is, for forms to work.
PUBLISH - just do it. It is the only thing that will work.
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 15:22:09
Being an old snooker player, I thought I' d take a look at your site - all I get is a blank page?
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 15:55:07
Gil,
blank in what way?
http://www.thesnookerclub.com/
make sure thats where u checked btw ;)
abbeyvet;
how do u know they are installed on the server? cause when i try to upload the page i get notified that the server extentions are not there.......
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 16:11:28
The site thesnookerclub.com is running Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) (Red-Hat/Linux) mod_perl/1.26 PHP/4.2.2 FrontPage/5.0.2 mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6b on Linux.
Looked it up on www.netcraft.com
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 16:37:03
i checked up on it and ur right they are installed, only thing tho... it says frontpage 97,98 and 2000... im on 2002. could this be the reason it wont run?
i published it and get error message, go here;
http://www.thesnookerclub.com/elitebeta.htm
click submit and ull see what i mean....
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 17:19:28
i called my isp up and as it happens they dont defaulty install frontpage extentions, so they are gonna do that on monday and hopefully that will be the end of this,
I would just like to say a big thank you to all who helped me on this one, you are all VERY kind to take time out to help me like that. It is very much appreciated! I only hope in time i can repay you or someone else(maybe someone who need help with forms, lol)
regards
ivan
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 19:25:54
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blank in what way?
Blank - a plain white page.
I looked at the source and see you haven' t included any <noframes> content for those of us who do allow frames. You might want to do that real soon...
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RE: making forms actually work.... - 7/19/2003 20:10:24
ah yes you are right.... forgotten that..
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. Try locating the form_results.txt file in the _private folder of your web and then open the form and point it there. If the file isn' t there either copy from your hdd or create a new one.
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