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kaplang
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MailTo: - 8/4/2003 18:56:18
Whenever i use the Mailto: command in a page, anyone using Hotmail gets properly directed to their web account but the send to address has " /start" appened to the end of the specified email address.
Any clues?
thanx,
georgek
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ApexWeb
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RE: MailTo: - 8/4/2003 21:35:29
Kaplang, are you sure that this is anyone with Hotmail?
Without a URL or HTML, it' s hard to say, but if FrontPage created the MAILTO for you, it should be true that:- Your MAILTO is perfect.
- The cause has to do with Microsoft' s method of making Hotmail come up and/or the (mis)configuration of this PC.
In short, if your HTML is valid, then you' ve done your job, as far as the site is concerned. If Hotmail doesn' t work, then Microsoft needs to fix that, and if this PC has problems, then you or someone needs to fix it. If we write HTML that conforms to a standard (really, we choose a standard to follow from among a small set). Then, it' s the browser makers' job (& plugin makers' job) to render it properly.
May I suggest something, Kaplang? I suggest you not use MAILTO links at all. To avoid spam, I suggest you create a form that doesn' t reveal your email address, such as the one here. If you prefer the simple mailto link, I suggest you encrypt the email address in JavaScript. Be aware, though, that your email link will not work for about 1 out of 10 visitors--those who have JavaScript disabled, or browsers without JavaScript. (Might many of these 10% be bots, such as spam-bots, and not human visitors?)
Why is this important? Plain MAILTO addresses generate spam within about 4 weeks.  This has occurred for new email addresses that no one knows about, except me & a visitors to that site. Pretty quickly, probably even using the WHOIS entry (from the domain name registration), spammers learn of the site, and send their spam-bots to find any MAILTO links. You can set up a ROBOTS.TXT file and tell them not to index or follow links, but they ignore this. Let the onslaught begin, they decide. The contact form with hidden email address solves that.
< Message edited by ApexWeb -- 8/4/2003 8:38:41 PM >
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indiewriter
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RE: MailTo: - 8/5/2003 1:14:52
hey guys, i don' t know if you checked out this thread, but i just posted it a couple of days ago, and this site that i got in reply seems pretty neat. i hope its as solid as claimed. but check it out regardless. can' t hurt....right?
http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m_149053/tm.htm
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Charles W Davis
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RE: MailTo: - 8/5/2003 18:48:13
indiewriter,
The spammers also know of that site. Clever programming can reverse that in milliseconds.
Use the Fantomas coding for alias domain e-mail addresses only. Then when the spammers get started, change the alias and the real recipient is protected.
Its amazing how these people have the audacity to offer to sell me something via a means that so infuriates me. I am so quick on the delete key!
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hatters
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RE: MailTo: - 8/3/2004 10:03:24
Is there a way to include the Fantomas code in the Forms email address? Any examples?
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Reflect
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RE: MailTo: - 8/3/2004 10:31:49
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The spammers also know of that site. Clever programming can reverse that in milliseconds
With all due respect...
I've used this coding scheme for years. I have never received spam...period. Accounts were active for at least one year +. My old log files also showed harvester bots trolling my site.
Do you have an example of it being cracked by a harvester bot?
Just curious.
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Is there a way to include the Fantomas code in the Forms email address?
Sure just right click on the form. Go to properties>e-mail address tab and insert the code string.
Brian
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hatters
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RE: MailTo: - 8/27/2004 17:10:53
Do you have an example of the Fantomas code working in a Form? I've tried it, and the results are inconsistent. I thought it was working for a day or two, and then I started getting Internal Server Errors.
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aaronwiles
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RE: MailTo: - 8/27/2004 22:03:42
If you wish to display your e-mail address on your web site may I suggest this line of coding, I use this on my site, SPAM robots scanning your site for e-mail addresses will not pick up on your e-mail address if in this format. Of cause this doesn't prevent anyone manually inputting it, but spammers will always use webmaster@ etc anyway.
<script language="JavaScript">
document.write('<a href="mailto:webmaster' + '@' + 'domain.com">' + 'webmaster' + '@' + domain.com</a>');
</script>
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d a v e
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RE: MailTo: - 8/28/2004 3:42:24
that's fine but you need a backup for users with javascript turned off - something like
email: me(at)domainname.com which of course they have to then copy and paste and replace (at) with @...
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