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Server problems, please help - 8/5/2003 9:28:33
ok heres the problem, made a website in frontpage 2002, everything works great, no problems, decided to add a BBphp forum to site, couldn`t find the db folder on the server through frontpage publishing and had to upload a (ms access database), so I used a ftp program to upload the database and since then my forms that contain uploads ask for password, have been in contact with the host twice, and was told that I can`t use the frontpage publisher and ftp at the same time, been very helpful, but can`t understand why its not working, I have tried the permissions, they are all fine and the host checked them as well, I did the recalulate links and it still hasn`t worked, I have deleted the site and uploaded again with frontpage, still the same problem, do you think its a server problem or frontpage.
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/5/2003 10:27:33
more than likely you blew out the server extensions and they need to be reinstalled.
Word of advice, keep your BB and the access DB as far away from FP as possible. i.e. don' t put them in the same directory stucture. If you have a cgi-bin out side of the web directory put them in there and don' t use FP to make any edits to the BB.
good luck
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jackdog
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/5/2003 11:16:29
Hi,
All the other Fp forms seems to be working fine and I can publish with fp as well, its just the forms that contain uploads on them that asks for a password, if I had blew out the extensions would it not mean that it wouldn' t work at all? do you think I should ask my host to reinstall them?
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can you recommend a forum that is compatible with fp, I need one where my users need to register?
please bear with me, I am just learning, don`t know all the techy stuff yet, your patience and replys would be appreciated
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/5/2003 11:28:33
You don' t need your forum to be compatible with FP - but you do need to keep it completely outside FP.
Upload it via FTP from another folder entirely spearate from your FP web and you should be ok.
I am a little confused about your whole set up though - why are you using an Access DB with a PHP forum? Generally they would use MySQl as the database. I think the best thing is to meticulously follow the BB installation instructions BUT - and I repeat this deliberately - keep it an entirely separate deal from anything FP.
If you are using a form that has an upload component you will need to be hosted on Windows. It will not work on a Unix/Linux server. So that may explain the forms. If you are on a Windows server then the instructions for a PHP board will be a bit different from the standard one, which are generally assuming a Linux/Unix host. Snitz is a good bulletin board to use on a Windows hosted site.
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/5/2003 11:56:48
thanks for your reply`s, I choose the access method because I don`t know anything about mySql, and access was an option I could use, the forum all works fine, but the guy from the server said its because I used the ftp programme that this is happened, how can I separate the two without using an ftp program, I have the silver package with
http://www.hostinguk.net
I think that its window 2003 servers they use, the upload component was working before I used the ftp, now I can`t get it back (if you now what I mean)
I will look into the snitz bullitin board
Thanks again for the reply`s, any advice is appreciated
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/6/2003 4:51:56
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why are you using an Access DB with a PHP forum? Generally they would use MySQl as the database actually this can be done quite easily using ODBC and PHPmyadmin
nonetheless, hee should try to re-create the upload form after the extension fix, also should check the directory permissions and make sure all iss in itsss right place
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/6/2003 10:51:48
*update*
I deleted the full site including the database which was (ODBC and phpadmin) and I also tried a older version of the website one that was working and before I had added the database, it didn`t work either, went back on this morning with ftp and removed the database, again I recalculated the links, and but its still asking for a password, I deleted the full site and uploaded again using frontpage, and recalculated links, still asks for password, I have deleted everything, contacted the host, they have since reinstalled the frontpage extensions and asked me to upload site again, unfortunately this still hasn`t solved the problem, so its been left with them again, but they have been great though very helpful and are trying to solve it.
Still don`t know whether its my site, frontpage or the server, have left it for the moment with them.
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/7/2003 20:49:45
what about the permissions on the upload folder?????
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/8/2003 6:35:38
yes they have been checked as well, (I think) do you mean the directory where the images will be going to? if so, when I right click for properties, the allow anon uploads bit is greyed out, I contacted host and they changed the permissions to allow anon uploads to that directory. if you mean something else can you explain what you mean. Thanks
They still haven`t got back to me yet and my form still isn`t working either.
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/9/2003 3:25:54
it's not FTP anonymous uploads, it's the actual NT security folder permissions. The folder where uploads go needs to have the write, read, and browse permissions enabled. The only thing that should go in that folder are the uploads. all scripts and other components need to go in a different folder. preferably one outside of FP but inside the web.
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/9/2003 13:49:14
i`ve just checked with the host and yes the permissions on the directories are enabled. I have another account with this host and I tried an upload component with this website, and unfortunately its asking for a password as well, my host is advertising that it is now running windows 2003 servers could there maybe a conflict or something with them upgrading, (I don`t know, just tring to think of something thats changed)
received an email from them today, quote:
You can already use FTP if you wish, but it can break the Frontpage extensions so be careful.
If you want Extensions to work, then you must use FrontPage to publish
my other website has only been published with frontpage so the ftp program can`t have made it stop working.
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/9/2003 17:43:58
This is starting to sound a lot like a host issue. Especially Server 2003. Unfortunately, I no longer have any Windows servers around here to help out. Switched to Linux...
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/9/2003 19:01:24
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my host is advertising that it is now running windows 2003 servers
I think you may have found the problem - using any MS OS prior to the third or fourth Service Pack is risky at best....
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/10/2003 18:10:57
Still working on it, looking into possibly changing hosts, as they don`t seem to be able to help, is there anyone esle having problems with the components and windows 2003?
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/10/2003 19:37:25
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is there anyone esle having problems with the components and windows 2003?
I don' t use WIN for web hosting, but know of two hosting companies that rolled out 2003 and within a week rolled back to 2000. But, like I say, most experienced MS admins know better than to convert to a new MS OS until it' s been out a while and a " few" of the patches have been released...
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RE: Server problems, please help - 8/11/2003 11:51:37
just to let you all know that they have fixed it, don`t know what they did, but the forms are now allowing the uploads.
Thanks for all your inputs!
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