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John316 -> Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 11:44:46)

All,

I am trying to make a Bulletin Board for my college dorm. I have never created something like this before so I really need some help on this.

John316



bobby -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 12:00:48)

There are lots of ways to go about it, and even more styles and options...

The discussion web template in FP is okay... but you may find that an ASP or PHP scripted solution will work better...

Check out www.hotscripts.com for some free-bees [;)]



coreybryant -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 12:18:39)

You can also take a look at this previous post.

http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m_88825/tm.htm

I use Snitz, & actually a modded forum from www.shnforum.com - you can get more mods @ www.snitzbitz.com , very easy to use plus free tech help if you need it.



John316 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 13:16:57)

coreybryant,

I kinda wanted to make a Bulletin Board from start to finish. Not simple download or buy one. Do any of you know how to cr8 one?

John316



c1sissy -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 13:20:08)

Hi John:
I also use Snitz, and I love it. They are a tremendous help if you need it while setting up or installing any of the mods.



coreybryant -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 13:25:01)

No - know a little ASP - could not even begin to know where to start to build it unfortunately. Plus it would take you quite a few hours, depending on exactly what you want on this bulletin board. I would re-consider building one from scratch.



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 13:31:33)

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Do any of you know how to cr8 one?

I personally don't know how to but if I were to want to learn I'd start by getting one of the free ones. Then I'd tear it apart to find out how it works. [;)]



gorilla -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 13:40:36)

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ORIGINAL: Mike54

quote:

Do any of you know how to cr8 one?

I personally don't know how to but if I were to want to learn I'd start by getting one of the free ones. Then I'd tear it apart to find out how it works. [;)]



That's Good advice. Get either a perl or php one and pick it apart. Or ASP if that's what you run to .....


Thor

Spokesgorilla



John316 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 16:05:54)

I want to be able to create my own Bulletin Board using .asp, and didn't want to take a free one, so none of you have ever created a BB before?

John



Rian -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 16:13:04)

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ORIGINAL: John316

I want to be able to create my own Bulletin Board using .asp, and didn't want to take a free one, so none of you have ever created a BB before?

John


"Why reinvent the wheel?" would be my 2 cents! There are hundreds if not thousands of Bulletin Board scripts available. Once or twice I added some of my own code to "tweak" or add a feature but I have never had the need to create one from scratch.

If it is the educational part you are after then the above advice from Mike54 et al is great! Pull some code apart and then build your own...

Rian [;)]



coreybryant -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 16:15:20)

I was getting ready to post the same thing Rian. If it's out there & available why not use it?



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 16:23:24)

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so none of you have ever created a BB before?

Sorry John, I for one am admittedly kind of lazy. If someone else has gone through the effort of creating a bulletin board that is functional and successful (check out the list here) why would I go through the effort? Doing modifications to tweak it is tough enough.[:D] I applaud your desire to "do it your way" but ...

Just a thought here, I know for a fact that both Snitz and WebwizGuide have great support forums (can't speak for the others listed), that might be the place to ask your question. The Admins/Mods of those forums did build them.[;)]

Didn't see your post Rian, no sense re-ing the "peat".[;)]



Gil -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 16:47:59)

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so none of you have ever created a BB before?


Why would anyone want to? Grab one of the many free ones and hack the code...



John316 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 17:47:26)

Gil,

The only way to learn something is to do it your self. Thats all I was trying to do. Thought that it would be fun creating a Bulletin Board.

John316



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 18:05:42)

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The only way to learn something is to do it your self.

I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you from that but one of the best ways to learn something new is to dissect what has already been done. Pythagoras came up with a theorem in mathematics, a lot of people use it but no one tries to re create it from scratch.

Note: According to my son (presently standing over my shoulder), all math majors have to do so to determine how he came up with it.[&:][:'(][:(]


[;)]



Gil -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 18:35:00)

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Thought that it would be fun creating a Bulletin Board.


Hey, go for it...

If you have the time, it might be fun - I don't [8D]



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/19/2003 18:46:21)

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If you have the time, it might be fun - I don't

Gil, did you like Benny Hill? You're succinct but you always crack me up![:D]

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John316 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/20/2003 10:47:17)

Thanks All

John316



Gil -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/20/2003 10:55:44)

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Gil, did you like Benny Hill?


LOVED Mr. Hill!!!! It's a shame a lot of his humor went right past a lot of people, don't you think?

quote:

You're succinct


LOL - Like I said "I don't have time" [sm=rolleyes.gif]

quote:

you always crack me up!


Thanks...



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/20/2003 12:06:40)

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It's a shame a lot of his humor went right past a lot of people, don't you think?

Definitely, I can't tell you how many times I'd be just rolling and everyone else in the room would have this kind of blank stare. [;)][8D]



Spooky -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/20/2003 14:18:55)

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The only way to learn something is to do it your self.


I kinda disagree with that, you need to see and understand the flow of code and requirements of a board. Theres more to it than meets the eye.
With examples, you can see what others have done to work around problems.

At the end of the day, it can be just as satisfying to improve on an existing product. By all means, dont let us stop you! if we did, there would be no bb's on the web today! [8D]



John316 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (8/26/2003 21:42:30)

Thanks for all your input guys

John316



John316 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/2/2003 21:01:54)

All,

After looking at all the Bulletin Board's you guys sent me I just have one question left is there a Bulletin Board where I don't hae to link back to where I got the program from. The reason this is, is because I am on a intranet and I can't have links to outside websites. Can anyone help???

Thanks,
John316



jongregory -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/8/2003 14:24:34)

If you want REALLY simple, just create a home page and link to a free on-line board such as:

http://www.invisionfree.com/

Edited:
Oops - didn't see you couldn't link to an outside site... Sorry!



cecilc -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/8/2003 17:09:54)

After looking at all the Bulletin Board's you guys sent me I just have one question left is there a Bulletin Board where I don't hae to link back to where I got the program from. The reason this is, is because I am on a intranet and I can't have links to outside websites. Can anyone help???

Most (if not all) of those free bulletin boards do allow you to remove the copyright and link back to their sites IF you purchase a license for the board. But as long as you take the free version, that copyright and link has to remain. At least, that's been my experience with them.

Hope that helps ....



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/8/2003 17:23:30)

And if you remove the link back?

No it doesn't break the board. IMHOO if you're using it for an intrAnet, and no one else can see it, you can leave the credit but remove the external link. I would NOT remove the credit as I didn't create it (fair is fair) but as for the link well, I'm flexible, you do have rules.[;)]

Let's see if that creates some discussion.[:(]

BTW, if it provides a real value to the company the few $$$ they ask for is a small enough price to pay.[;)]



Doug G -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/8/2003 19:21:09)

If you take a free product that has a condition to show a link back to their site, and you choose not to abide by the agreement, well you don't get a Christmas present from me anyway.



Mike54 -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/8/2003 19:23:46)

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If you take a free product that has a condition to show a link back to their site, and you choose not to abide by the agreement, well you don't get a Christmas present from me anyway.

OK so I feel properly chastised at this point...[:(][&o]



cecilc -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/9/2003 17:10:37)

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And if you remove the link back?


Hey,...I'm not saying it doesn't happen ...... it probably happens quite a bit, if truth be told .....

And you'd probably be OK (read: get away with it) if you did remove the link back to the "creator" site. But, again, we get back to that "agreement" thing ..... and then we get into "ethics" and all the rest of that .....

And Mike's right - the board does still work ( .... and how would I know that, you ask ??) .....

I plead the 5th ......[;)]



abbeyvet -> RE: Bulletin Board Question (9/9/2003 18:39:23)

I think the obvious thing to do here would be to contact the owner of the board you like, explain it is for a dorm - not a business - and will be on an intranet. My guess is they will say go ahead.

Basically I would think that leaving the copyright intact, with instead of a link the actual URL to the site visible, would allow anyone looking to be aware of the copyright and to visit the site later if they so wished.

In most cases the reason removal is not allowed is that there is revenue for the creators in selling a license that allows removal. Since there is probably no revenue potential here and no-one on the Internet will see the site, nor will anyone be under the illusion that it is not their work, I cannot see any of them objecting.



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