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Tinker

 

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Any good? - 8/24/2003 9:36:56   
I would like some thoughts on what I am doing in my designs. I am using FP 2k2 and PSP 8. I am also starting with the standard templates in FP and changing things around a bit. As I look around at other sites I get the feeling that I may be headed in the wrong direction with my design ideas. Also I am trying to learn how to make this all come together.........

www.spiritbright.com

https://home.comcast.net/~tinker69691/

PS the infromation in these sites is not complete as I am trying to get the layout finished before adding the meat...:)

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RE: Any good? - 8/24/2003 15:49:16   
Tinker,

Some suggestions:

  • Scrolling marquees are distracting and normally not read. If you decide to retain it, correct the grammar. See image below.
  • The grey background should be lightened a couple of shades.
  • Either make a business site or a personal site - not both!



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RE: Any good? - 8/24/2003 16:05:08   
On the "https://home.comcast.net/~tinker69691/" site, even at 1024x768 resolution,
I had to scroll left and right. On the other site, I had to go to 1024x768 to avoid the
need to scroll left and right. I think you need to fix that.

And on the "http://www.spiritbright.com/" site, either lighten the grey or do away with
the dark burgandy & navy banner. It just doesn't match. I know nothing about colors
and graphics, but this forum has references to many tools that will help you get good
color matches. Below, I've pasted the code to one of the tools.

I'd suggest defining one theme or objective, per site, and sticking just with that.

I hope this helps,
Andrew


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN"
			"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<title>Color Blender</title>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
body {background: white; color: black;}
form {margin: 0;}
h1 {font-family: Arial, sans-serif; line-height: 0.85em; border-bottom: 2px solid;
  margin-bottom: 0.33em; padding-bottom: 0;}

#main {border-bottom: 1px solid; padding-bottom: 0.5em;}

#uicell {width: 25em;}
#uicell th {width: 6em; text-align: right; padding-right: 0.5em;
  border: 1px solid black; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0;}
#uicell td {padding: 0 0 0 0.5em;}
#uicell td.pal {padding: 0 3em;}
#uicell #gobuttons td {height: 1.5em;}

input, #input a {font: 0.85em "Andale Mono", Courier, monospace;}
#input, #output {margin: 0 0 1em;}

#input td {white-space: nowrap;}
#input a {border: 2px outset silver; background: silver; padding: 1px 0.25em; cursor: pointer;}
#input .coltype {background: #EEE; border-style: inset;}

#output input {border: 2px solid white; border-width: 0 2px;}
#output td.text {border-bottom: 1px dotted silver;}

#watercell {width: 75px; background: silver; padding: 0;}
#grid {background: black; border: 1px solid black; border-width: 0 1px 1px 0; margin: 5px 4px;}
#grid td {height: 11px; width: 11px; padding: 0; line-height: 11px;}
#grid td a {display: block; height: 10px; width: 10px; line-height: 10px;
  border: 1px solid black; border-width: 1px 0 0 1px;}

#textcell p {margin: 0; padding: 0 1em 1em 1.5em;}

#footer {color: #999; font: italic 75% sans-serif;}
#footer p {margin: 0 0 1em 0;}
#footer img {float: right; margin: 0 0 0.5em 2em;}
-->
</style>
<script type="text/javascript">
// Thanks to Steve Champeon (hesketh.com) for explaining the math in such a way that I could 
// understand it and create this tool
// Thanks to Roberto Diez for the idea to create the "waterfall" display
// Thanks to the Rhino book, I was able to (clumsily) set up the Color object

var cursor = 0;
var colType = 'hex';
var base = 16;
var ends = new Array(new Color,new Color);
var step = new Array(3);
var palette = new Array(new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color,new Color);

function GetElementsWithClassName(elementName,className) {
	var allElements = document.getElementsByTagName(elementName);
	var elemColl = new Array();
	for (i = 0; i< allElements.length; i++) {
		if (allElements.className == className) {
			elemColl[elemColl.length] = allElements;
		}
	}
	return elemColl;
}

function Color(r,g,b) {
	this.r = r;
	this.g = g;
	this.b = b;
	this.coll = new Array(r,g,b);
	this.valid = cVerify(this.coll);
	this.text = cText(this.coll);
	this.bg = cText(this.coll);
}

function cVerify(c) {
	var valid = 'n';
	if ((!isNaN(c[0])) && (!isNaN(c[1])) && (!isNaN(c[2]))) {valid = 'y'}
	return valid;
}

function cText(c) {
	var result = '';
	var d = 1;
	if (colType == 'rgbp') {d = 2.55}
	for (k = 0; k < 3; k++) {
		val = Math.round(c[k]/d);
		piece = val.toString(base);
		if (colType == 'hex' && piece.length < 2) {piece = '0' + piece;}
		if (colType == 'rgbp') {piece = piece + '%'};
		if (colType != 'hex' && k < 2) {piece = piece + ',';}
		result = result + piece;
	}
	if (colType == 'hex') {result = '#' + result.toUpperCase();}
		else {result = 'rgb(' + result + ')';}
	return result;
}

function colorParse(c,t) {
	var m = 1;
	col = c.replace(/[\#rgb\(]*/,'');
	if (t == 'hex') {
		if (col.length == 3) {
			a = col.substr(0,1);
			b = col.substr(1,1);
			c = col.substr(2,1);
			col = a + a + b + b + c + c;
		}
		var num = new Array(col.substr(0,2),col.substr(2,2),col.substr(4,2));
		var base = 16;
	} else {
		var num = col.split(',');
		var base = 10;
	}
	if (t == 'rgbp') {m = 2.55}
	var ret = new Array(parseInt(num[0],base)*m,parseInt(num[1],base)*m,parseInt(num[2],base)*m);
	return(ret);
}

function colorPour(pt,n) {
	var textObj = document.getElementById(pt + n.toString());
	var colObj = document.getElementById(pt.substring(0,1) + n.toString());
	if (pt == 'col') {temp = ends[n]} else {temp = palette[n]}
	if (temp.valid == 'y') {
		textObj.value = temp.text;
		colObj.style.backgroundColor = temp.bg;
	}
}

function colorStore(n) {
	var inVal = 'col'+n.toString();
	var inCol = document.getElementById(inVal).value;
	var c = colorParse(inCol,colType);
	ends[n] = new Color(c[0],c[1],c[2]);
	if (ends[n].valid == 'y') {colorPour('col',n)}
}

function stepCalc() {
	var steps = parseInt(document.getElementById('steps').value) + 1;
	step[0] = (ends[1].r - ends[0].r) / steps;
	step[1] = (ends[1].g - ends[0].g) / steps;
	step[2] = (ends[1].b - ends[0].b) / steps;
}

function mixPalette() {
	var steps = parseInt(document.getElementById('steps').value);
	var count = steps + 1;
	palette[0] = new Color(ends[0].r,ends[0].g,ends[0].b);
	palette[count] = new Color(ends[1].r,ends[1].g,ends[1].b);
	for (i = 1; i < count; i++) {
		var r = (ends[0].r + (step[0] * i));
		var g = (ends[0].g + (step[1] * i));
		var b = (ends[0].b + (step[2] * i));
			palette = new Color(r,g,b);
	}
	for (j = count + 1; j < 12; j++) {
		palette[j].text = '';
		palette[j].bg = 'white';
	}
}

function drawPalette() {
	stepCalc();
	mixPalette();
	for (i = 0; i < 12; i++) {
		colorPour('pal',i);
	}		
}

function setCursor(n) {
	cursor = n;
	var obj1 = document.getElementById('col0');
	var obj2 = document.getElementById('col1');
	obj1.style.backgroundColor = '';
	obj2.style.backgroundColor = '';
	if (cursor >= 0 && cursor <= 1) {
		document.getElementById('col'+cursor).style.backgroundColor = '#FF9';
	}
}

function colorIns(c) {
	var obj = document.getElementById('col'+cursor);
	var result = colorParse(c,'hex');
	ends[cursor] = new Color(result[0],result[1],result[2]);
	obj.value = ends[cursor].text;
	if (ends[cursor].valid == 'y') {colorPour('col',cursor)}
}

function setType(inp) {
	colType = inp;
	if (inp == 'hex') {base = 16;} else {base = 10;}
	for (i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
		var obj = document.getElementById('col' + i);
		if (ends.valid == 'y') {
			ends = new Color(ends.r,ends.g,ends.b);
			obj.value = ends.text;
		}
	}
	drawPalette();
	document.getElementById('hex').className = '';
	document.getElementById('rgbd').className = '';
	document.getElementById('rgbp').className = '';
	document.getElementById(inp).className = 'coltype';	
}

function init(inp) {
	if (!inp) {
		obj = GetElementsWithClassName('a','coltype');
		inp = obj[0].id;
	}
	document.getElementById(inp).className = 'coltype';
	for (i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
		ends = new Color;
		document.getElementById('col'+i).value = '';
		document.getElementById('c'+i).style.background = 'white';
	}
	for (j = 0; j < 12; j++) {
		palette[j] = new Color;
		document.getElementById('pal'+j).value = '';
		document.getElementById('p'+j).style.background = 'white';
	}
	document.getElementById('steps').value = '0';
	document.getElementById('col0').focus();
}
</script>
</head>
<body onload="init('hex');">


<form onsubmit="return false;">
<h1>Color Blender</h1>

<table id="main">
<tr valign="top">
<td id="uicell">

<table id="input">
<tr>
<th>Format</th>
<td colspan="2">
<a onclick="setType('hex');" id="hex">Hex</a>
<a onclick="setType('rgbd');" id="rgbd">RGB</a>
<a onclick="setType('rgbp');" id="rgbp">RGB%</a>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th id="l1">Color 1</th>
<td class="col"><input type="text" id="col0" size="19" onblur="colorStore('0');" onfocus="setCursor(0);" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="c0"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th id="l2">Color 2</th>
<td class="col"><input type="text" id="col1" size="19" onblur="colorStore('1');" onfocus="setCursor(1);" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="c1"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th>Midpoints</th>
<td>
<select id="steps">
<option value="1">1</option>
<option value="2">2</option>
<option value="3">3</option>
<option value="4">4</option>
<option value="5">5</option>
<option value="6">6</option>
<option value="7">7</option>
<option value="8">8</option>
<option value="9">9</option>
<option value="10">10</option>
</select>
</td>
</tr>
<tr id="gobuttons">
<td></td>
<td>
<a onclick="drawPalette();">blend</a></td>
<td><a onclick="init();">clear</a></td>
</tr>
</table>

<table id="output">
<tr>
<th>Palette</th>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal0" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p0"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal1" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p1"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal2" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p2"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal3" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p3"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal4" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p4"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal5" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p5"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal6" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p6"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal7" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p7"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal8" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p8"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal9" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p9"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal10" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p10"> </td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td class="text"><input type="text" id="pal11" size="19" /></td>
<td class="pal" id="p11"> </td>
</tr>
</table>

</td>
<td id="watercell">

<script type="text/javascript">
var colors = new Array('00','33','66','99','CC','FF');
document.write('<table cellspacing="0" id="grid">');
for (i = 5; i >= 0; i--) {
	for (j = 5; j >= 0; j--) {
		document.write('<tr>');
		for (k= 5; k >= 0; k--) {
			var col = colors+colors[j]+colors[k];
			document.write('<td style="background: #'+col+';"><a href="javascript:colorIns(\'#'+col+'\');"><\/a><\/td>');
		}
		document.write('<\/tr>');
	}
}
document.write('<\/table>');
</script>

</td>
<td id="textcell">

<ul>
<li>
Pick a color value format, input two <strong>valid</strong> CSS color values in the format you chose, and pick the number of midpoints you'd like to see.  The palette will show the colors you input as well as the requested number of midpoint colors, and the values of those colors.</li>
<li>All numbers are rounded to the nearest integer.</li>
<li>Clicking on a square in the "waterfall" display will fill in the appropriate value for whichever input is highlighted.</li>
<li>Switching between value formats will translate whatever values are in place.</li>
<li>"Clear" removes all values and colors, but does not change the current value format.</li>
<li>If you'd like to have the Color Blender for offline use, just view source and save to your hard drive.</li>
</ul>

</td>
</tr>
</table>

</form>


<div id="footer">
<img alt="Creative Commons License" border="0" src="http://creativecommons.org/images/public/somerights.gif">
<p>
<br>
The Color Blender is licensed under a Creative Commons <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/1.0/">Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0</a> License.
</p>
<p>
This tool is provided without warranty, guarantee, or much in the way of explanation.  Note that use of this tool may or may not crash your browser, lock up your machine, erase your hard drive, or e-mail those naughty pictures you hid in the Utilities folder to your mother.  Don't blame me if anything bad happens to you, because it's actually the aliens' fault.  The code expressed herein is solely that of the author, and he's none too swift with the JavaScript, if you know what we mean, so it's likely to cause giggle fits in anyone who knows what they're doing.  Not a flying toy.  Thank you for playing.  Insert coin to continue.
</p>
</div>

</body>
</html>


< Message edited by SerenityNet -- 8/24/2003 3:09:12 PM >


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Tinker

 

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RE: Any good? - 8/24/2003 16:07:00   
Thanks for the suggestions Charles. I can get rid of the scrolling text that is not a problem.

Not for sure how I would make the background lighter however because it is the background from the template.

The 2 sites are on 2 different host. Why would one not want to make both? One is for personal and one business. The personal site I use to show folks about myself and the business site is for just that. There is no link on the business site to the personal site because I do not fell that would be correct in that it would detract from the business aspect.

Thanks Andrew for your suggestions. Well being new to Front Page :) I do not now how to change the resolution. I am a real newbie at this.

On the color a spiritbright I am lost there as well..:)
Any more ideas and suggestions would be well received....

< Message edited by Tinker -- 8/24/2003 4:24:10 PM >


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RE: Any good? - 8/24/2003 19:31:18   
Your background is coming from "_themes/corporat/corbkgnd.gif". You just need to lighten the gif (but make a copy of your original before you start messing around with it). See the attached file for an example (it's just a lightened image - I didn't try to make it match your site). I used the TouchUp / Brighten & Contrast feature in PhotoDraw to lighten the image. If you have ImageComposer, go to Tools / Color Tuning to get the brighten tool.

For the resolution part, I was speaking about my monitor's resolution (Start Menu / Control Panel / Display / Settings / Screen Area). But if you, like me, like working with higher resolutions (that show more information) then you can simulate lower resolutions using FP and not have to change your screen resolution. Choose "Preview in Browser" from your "File" menu and select the browser you want to use as well as the "resolution". You site should look good at least down to 800x600 and users shouldn't have to scroll horizontally (vertical scrolling is expected, but all your primary content or introduction should be visible without scrolling).

And one last thing. It's good to be a newbie here at OutFront. There are lots and lots of people here anxious to help. I'm just a hobbiest. But there are many here that do this for a living and they are willing to share what they know. No one minds if you have to ask for clarification on something that's more advanced than you've tried before. Ask and ask and ask. Then when you see a post that you can answer, go for it! And have fun.


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