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Tressa
Posts: 302 From: Iowa USA Status: offline
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hosting - 3/13/2001 20:45:00
I am making the move to a paid host - but there are a few things I need to know...When they talk about a NT server or cisco or whatever - what do I need to be sure to sign up for??? Does FrontPage have a special requirement?? On a shared server, when I have a www.com name I should get the same attention from a search engine as if I had my own server - but if it was a free host site - I have a poor chance with a search engine??? Please elaborate... -T
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Michael
Posts: 237 From: Trabuco Canyon, CA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/13/2001 20:05:00
FP will work on either NT or UNIX servers, so long as the server has FP extensions up and working. Make sure the hosting company you select offers FP support and you should be fine. There are some limitation as to what can be done on NT versus UNIX but someone else will need to elaborate on that as it's not my area of expertise.As for search engine rankings on a shared server opposed to a freebie site: a shared server only means that your site will not be hosted on its own stand alone hardware. It will still have its own IP address and will not be part of a group of sites. That is, www.yoursite.com will appear to the search engines as a "real" independant site since it now has its own domain, www.geocities.com/yoursite will not as it is under the geocities domain. In fact, many search engines will refuse to index sites under the large freebie domains as they are getting overwhelmed with requests for what they consider to be hobby sites that don't offer any real content. Right or wrong, that's what many are doing these days, so having your own domain name is important. ------------------ <--Your information went data way -->
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Tressa
Posts: 302 From: Iowa USA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/13/2001 20:10:00
thanks for the reply, Michael.Here is another scenario: I have a customer that is a dealer for a company called Create-A-Book. She wants me to create a site that is more dynamic than her cookie-cutter site. The company said they would host her, but it would be www.create-a-book/herfranchise-at-the-end That looks to me as if she would get no credit from a search engine - am I correct? I want to become a reseller of space and want to make a good argument why she should pay me instead) [This message has been edited by Tressa (edited 03-13-2001).]
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Tressa
Posts: 302 From: Iowa USA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/13/2001 17:25:00
I was hoping to get more input on this topic...
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showthem
Posts: 11 From: Omaha, NE USA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/13/2001 23:58:00
Tressa,<P>Wish I could tell you what you want to hear. But, she will probably get little additional consideration from search engines with her own domain than if she is set up as a sub-domain.<P>But, you need to convince her that without her own domain she won't have nearly as much name recognition. Also, why shouldn't she have both sites? One as a subdomain, one as her own domain. That would be the best of both worlds!<P>More on the search engines and free sites. Michael touched on this, but some search engines blackball certain hosts. These include many free hosts. Most legitimate professional hosts will not have this problem, however.<P>Before jumping into hosting (reselling), do some research. I think you'll find the time commitment required will be a big surprise.
< Message edited by BobbyDouglas -- 2/6/2006 1:26:25 >
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Tressa
Posts: 302 From: Iowa USA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/14/2001 20:46:00
Time commitment? Are you saying what I think you're saying? I am making more work for myself???As a web designer, I thought it best to offer my clients the complete package - design and hosting. Anyone out there who is a reseller of space sorry they did it????? [This message has been edited by Tressa (edited 03-14-2001).]
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abbeyvet
Posts: 5095 From: Kilkenny Ireland Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/14/2001 20:01:00
I resell space, both to those for whom I design sites and to others who just buy the space from me.In the former case I prefer to have customers use the space I sell them, though I do offer other options or use space which they already have. It is easier to deal with a host with whom you are familiar and with whom you have a relationship. In the case where I just sell space it is a bit of a nuisance. In effect however you sell the space you also have to support it's buyers, you are their first port of call if they have a problem or need a question answered, essentially liaising between them and the hosting company. In some cases this is no bother, in others you would need the patiance of a saint and acquire great sympathy for everyone involved in customer support! ------------------ Katherine InKK Design LinKKs - Kilkenny's Online Magazine -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Dogs have owners, cats have staff!"
[This message has been edited by abbeyvet (edited 03-14-2001).]
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Tressa
Posts: 302 From: Iowa USA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/14/2001 20:18:00
Thanks, Katherine, for your honest opinion. -T
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Michael
Posts: 237 From: Trabuco Canyon, CA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/14/2001 20:41:00
I believe she'd get more consideration from search engines under this scenario than if she were with Geocities, Freeyellow, FortuneCity et al. Those are major players in the freebie game, but under create-a-book.com she could just look like another page in that domain. I would make sure to include an index.htm page in her subdirectory of that site to minimize the length of her URL. An index.htm page would be the default page of www.create-a-book.com/herfranchise so you could avoid the common mistake of many hobby site owners using something like www.geocities.com/mysite/welcome.htm. It's not much, and probably won't impact search engines much, but I'd do it.As for search engines themselves, make sure your client understands the time involved in getting indexed. I'm always amazed when I finish a site for a client and they call me the day after it goes live to tell me they can't find themselves on Yahoo!, Excite, Google, etc. Now, at the risk of rambling.....I am a reseller as well and there have only been a couple of times with a couple clients where I have thought maybe it wasn't such a great idea. If you think about it though, your client has had so much more contact with you than they will an anonymous hosting company that they would most likely call you first to report problems any way. For the most part, you're looking at having a few hundred bucks a month coming in for practically no work at all. ------------------ <--Your information went data way -->
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Tressa
Posts: 302 From: Iowa USA Status: offline
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RE: hosting - 3/14/2001 15:37:00
Thanks, Michael - very good advice... -T
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