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Long Island Lune

 

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 10/31/2003 12:10:04   
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How can you keep Windows running, let alone all those apps in the background, LOL

Sounds like he Spooky Dieted all his software.
I'm still running 128M and feel horse-n-buggy.
If anyone can run all that on 64M, God-Bless-You. :)


Bobby - I'm going to try the Intrusion Test. Hmmmm. Scared to see the results. :)

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 10/31/2003 13:34:32   
I had one port open, but blocked it easy enough...

I haven't tested since "The big HDD crash of '03" as it's come to be known around my house...

Reinstalled everything and now have to go back and check all my security again... I'll have to jump on that this weekend.

It's a painless test... only takes a minute.

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 10/31/2003 16:02:36   
I tried using a ram controler but that took too many resources, i usually havw have 1 maybe 2 windows open at a time... it just works! i have a 700 mHz computer using a celeron plus i run win 98se with only main features my msconfig only load what i need to start up. I create a lot of flash stuff so i need to see how things run on a crappy computer, I feel that because of my designing I never will have a good fast computer, i will alway be 1 step behind the middle of the norm. Its sad, but it pays off. I sometimes wish my compter was only a 600mhz, and my monitors only a 12" and a 15" not a 15 and 17.

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 10/31/2003 16:21:20   
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700 mHz computer using a celeron plus i run win 98se
My second laptop is exactly the same. But with 128M. I need an older laptop for backwards compatibility when testing software we create. We try to keep things compatible on Win95 machines. :)

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It's a painless test... only takes a minute.
Great news. I'm going to give it a whirl over the weekend.

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 10/31/2003 21:53:15   
Regarding Stinger, what use is searching for "33 viruses, trojans, and variants". There are thousands of meanies out there. What am I missing that "33" is a big deal?

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 11/3/2003 12:30:28   
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I sometimes wish my compter was only a 600mhz, and my monitors only a 12" and a 15" not a 15 and 17.

I could probably work out a trade... :)

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 11/3/2003 14:13:53   
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I sometimes wish my compter was only a 600mhz, and my monitors only a 12" and a 15" not a 15 and 17.


Do you wish you were backwards compatible?

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 12/1/2003 15:11:39   
I'm using Windows XP Pro on my main workstation, and Windows 2003 on my server, and use Norton's Firewall and AntiVirus (2003), and Adaware 6.0 AND Spybot (each will pickup spyware the other misses) on both. They're both on a KVM switch that's connected to a 21" monitor and a wireless mouse and keyboard, which makes it handy when you want to kick back and relax. I also have an old dinosaur, a Pentium 233 running 98SE, which I'm using an older version of Norton on. I have a router with a hardware firewall as well. I think I'm pretty well protected, but you can never really be sure anymore.


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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 2/2/2004 7:50:47   
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ORIGINAL: bobby

Good points Spooky...

Some points I try to make to friends and family:

If you use MS-Windows, make sure you patch / update regularly and often... and not just Windows, but your AV software as well.

Firewall, Firewall, Firewall!!!
With so many great ones available, there is no excuse... Norton, Zone Alarm, Smooth Wall, etc.

Antivirus software... yes, Norton is gonna cost you $30-$40 and another $15 per year after that. It's worth every penny! Just ask anyone who has been hit hard by a virus.

Also, don't use IE for your main browser... try Mozilla or Opera... they don't have the same holes that are in Internet Explorer (several are still unpatched). Keep IE for testing your pages, but why run around on the internet with your pants down?

Also watch what you download... that cool free game or toolbar might be nifty, but what is it costing you in privacy? Run a spyware check often... I use Ad-Aware 6.0 (free) and it works great.

Switch email clients if the integration between Outlook and IE frightens you... there are free options out there that are fantastic, or get a "web based" email like Hotmail or Yahoo (just don't input any personal info, since they're subject to hacks too)

Whether or not it's Microsofts fault, the bottom line is they aren't going to be held responsible if a hole in their source code allows a hacker or virus to tamper with or even destroy your system... (anybody remember the Chernobyl virus?)

I still recommend Linux... in addition to Windows (dual boot) if you don't want to give up some of your Win only games or apps. Heck, you paid good money for Windows, why should you have to throw it away?

But that's really another topic...

Has anybody ever chronicled just how much time you spend running patches, updates and scans per week?



Firewalls are good in theory. I use one. I also have to setup allow rules for almost every web application I want to run. Even some live updates get blocked.

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 2/21/2004 2:29:14   
Hi Gang,
Just joined.. and saw this intresting post..
looks like i am gonna enjoy here
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Security Update CD avail for free - 3/23/2004 7:46:50   
Just got finished doing an presentation for our local PCUG (personal computer user group) on this topic. Learned that there is still a BIG need for this with most home users. One of the tips that I shared was that folks can save alot of headaches in dealing with this is to order a free Security CD from Microsoft. Order it from the Security Update Page
The Windows Security Update CD will be shipped to you free of charge. This CD includes Microsoft critical updates released through October 2003 and information to help you protect your PC. In addition, you will also receive a free antivirus and firewall trial software CD.

This CD is only available for Windows XP, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows 98, and Windows 98 Second Edition (SE).

While I wish there was no need for this, this CD will help make thing easier if folks have to do a total reinstall, have a really slow connection or have different OS on different computers.

Hope this can help someone. My computer is up to date (at least till today's announcement of a new flaw discovered) but I've ordered one for the archives.

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 16:41:28   
The Screen Savers (yes, I'm a huge fan) had a great episode devoted to computer security this week... read the show notes and articles here:

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/shownotes/story/0,24330,3673416,00.html

Very informative, and a lot of great links, downloads, etc...

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:03:00   
if anyone is considering a good alternative to outlook express then i can recommend mozilla thunderbird
http://www.mozilla.org/

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:07:20   
I really hate how Outlook performs, but I love the features. Does thunderbird do everything OE does?

Btw, what would you suggest as the extensions to use with it?

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:11:10   
i haven't looked into that extensively but it does everything i want it to. give it a whirl and see for yourself.
i haven't got any extensions installed!

I use it for reading newsgroups on as well

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:17:32   
I would be using it for e-mail only. Would you still think it is better than OE?

I hate the way OE stores its folders/e-mails. Would it be easy to keep all of my messages and switch over to thunderbird?

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:22:44   
i've still got all my old messages in outlook, i'm just sort of testing thunderbird, to be honest i think it's easier if you try it and see if it does what you want it to do. I think it would but i'm not sure. :)

what don't you like about the way outlook stores messages?

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:26:34   
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what don't you like about the way outlook stores messages?

- First off, if you want to backup your files/folders/e-mail you need to go through a LOT of steps. You can't just export everything in one click (the way it should be). Not only that, but the identies are stored with the ID string that is too hard to follow. It doesn't layout anything nice.

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:33:23   
er not sure. you can import your messages from outlook into thunderbird. i just have'nt looked into it in any deep or useful way :) have a look yourself :)

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:37:26   
I will look into it once I get home, I would love to ditch OE!

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 17:57:53   
I ditched OE for Eudora (free) about a year ago. When MZ 1.4 was released I rolled everything over into it and have used MZ mail ever since

(Thunderbird is the mail client only, Mozilla suite comes with the mail client, browser, composer, and ICQ)

It does everything OE could do except one... it's not tied to IE or the OS so there are imminently fewer security holes...

This tool is $15, but backs up to a zip file
http://www.pcworlddownload.com/system-utilities/backup-restore/ez-mozilla-backup.htm

You can also copy the directory to a backup location, see here:
http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.5/faq/profile.html#backup

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 4/29/2004 18:13:48   
well yes that's option too as well! good point.

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 6/13/2004 4:42:06   
I've used 2 free antivirus programs in my life. Those are AntiVir Personal Edition by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH and avast! 4 Home Edition by Alwil Software. I currently use avast! and it hasn't let me down. Neither has AntiVir, but I find it kinda old-fashioned (try it yourself, you'll see why).

I use Win98 and have a constant fear over my machine's security. It has the power to run WinXP (Xtra Problems), but slowly, so I won't be upgrading.

I use ZoneAlarm. It's good enough.

I have blocked MSIE's access to internet, as well as Windows Media Player. I use QuickTime for every other video format than the Microsoft's "secret" ones. Why? Security reasons.

I don't need Ad-Aware, because I don't get any spyware.

I use Privoxy which has become my best friend.

And oh, I've also blocked "Distributed COM Services" which always whines to get access on the internet. I guess it has something to do with MSN Messenger spam (my little sister uses it). I myself use GAIM.

I have replaced the Explorer shell with GeoShell.

My advice for Computer Security for home Users is: upgrade to Linux, immediately. It's 2004 already, and we're still on Windows. Come'on... :)

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 6/24/2004 0:42:03   
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My advice for Computer Security for home Users is: upgrade to Linux, immediately. It's 2004 already, and we're still on Windows. Come'on...

Yeah, baby...

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RE: Security Update CD avail for free - 9/22/2004 18:06:10   
The Windows XP Service Pack 2 disk contains all critical updates. When installed all of the previously critical updates disappear from the Add/Remove Programs list. Only SP2 shows.

When our club members visit members homes, we generally carry a USB Flash disk (with a CD containing drivers for Win 98) with Ad-Aware, SpyBot S&D, Adobe Reader 6 (5.0.5 for the Win 98 users), an up-to-dte McAfee Stinger to search for viruses and Mozilla Firefox. Separately we carry a Windows XP SP2 installation disk. We try to leave the member with a cleaner leaner machine. Since we started installing Mozilla Firefox, our service calls have dropped.

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 12/2/2004 21:25:40   
Hi all!
Now I am using Armor2net Personal Firewall. Has anyone also experienced it? For me, it does a good job. Excellent Internet Security protection; zaps the pop-ups; remove the spyware components safely. Furthermore it is easy to use and very vintuitive. You can have a try if you're interested.
URL: http://www.armor2net.com

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 12/16/2005 10:29:52   
My opinion is that viruses also made by producers of AntiViruse Programs.
Its like with heath viruses. Producers of pills are guilty in sharing all those viruses.
They need customers. They get them sick and then heal them. Nice?
But not all are so ...:)

Be healthy.

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 3/17/2006 7:21:47   
I use front page to edit my web pages the last few days i have been shut out logging on with my past word , what could have happened how do I correct it or get a new pass word to log on

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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 9/4/2007 13:36:41   
Does it make a difference whether an internet connection is wireless or wired? Some say yes, some say no. I am confused.
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RE: Computer Security for home Users - 9/4/2007 14:24:16   
Wireless internet is usually slower than wired. On top of that, poor encryption algorithms for wireless internet allow anyone to crack and use your wireless connection.

Sometimes the benefits of wireless will outweigh the negative impact of allowing other people to use your connection. If you're in a house that isn't prewired for internet, and most of the people are on laptops, you might be better off sticking with wireless internet.

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