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yasmin -> some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 10:43:33)

I uploaded to the site and find that of 14 link buttons only two show up. Is that a fphover.class problum? if so how can I ecover this?



nay27uk -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 10:46:47)

whats the url ill take a look for you



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 10:52:43)

I would reconsider using the java applets as a navigational method. This can really slow down your website to a crawl.

As far as the ones not showing up - did you make sure they were all pointing to the correct path for the fphover.class?



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 11:07:23)

http:www.servohut.com is where we sit.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 11:11:22)

Looking at the folders again I realize that there are two sets of fphoverpass files. Don't know what I did to cause this but that may be a clue. It shows up normal on preview and on web browser but it did not transfer well.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 11:33:43)

Well it is showing fphover.class with no folder. is fphover.class in folder on your web?

Also the URL is pointing to file:///C:/A%20SERVOHUT%20HTML/index.htm - try going to tools - recalculate hyperlinks to see if that will help



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 11:43:12)

I am looking at two sets of two hoverpass, one set is on a folder and the other set is not in a folder. What should that URL read?. I looked at the links that can be seen on the server and the URL is not the the C:// A servohut catagory, it is labled HTML/ whatever. I tried the recalculating of the links from tools and nothing changed.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 11:49:59)

is fphover.class in folder on your web?

if not, then that that part would be correct, the path would only be fphover.class - I have not used hover buttons in about 3 years & strongly recommend against them now since the support (especially in IE) is degraded.

The first line for the buttons:
<applet code="fphover.class" width="35" height="10" codebase="file:///C:/A%20SERVOHUT%20HTML/fphover/">
and if the fphover.class is int he same folder as your index page it should be:
<applet code="fphover.class" width="35" height="10">



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:07:18)

Moving things around has dug a small pit where things disappear to. I now have 81 broken links with just a poke of the finger! Tools does nothing to fix the lonks. all that info is based around the hoverclass issue.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:19:05)

I am still not certain where fphover.class is yet. You could do a find & replace if you do not have any folders.

You are experiencing one of the problems of using these buttons. Your users will experience a lot more.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:24:35)

what options do I have to the hoverclass buttons?



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:30:28)

C:\A SERVOHUT HTML\fphoverx.class
C:\A SERVOHUT HTML\fphover.class

This where these critters are but the server can't find them upon uploading the page.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:31:10)

Well I am assuming you are using them for navigational purposes? There are other methods, either images, text links, or you can check out some out @ Dynamic Drive Menus. One of my favorites is HV Menu which can be horizontal as well.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:33:16)

right - that is an absolute path & depending on where fphover.class is located it should only be fphover.class:
fphover.class



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 12:55:31)

corey I don't know much about HTML but looking at the body all of the hoverpass info that is readable is related to the links that I can see. The ones that are missing are also missing in the HTML. Now I went to the site you mention and looked at the horizontal display. Thought it was great in as much as there is also a drop down menu with that. which ineffect can reduce the visible amount of links for me.

If I copy and past the info provided then go o to step two. Can this cause me more heart ache than what I'm looking at now? Loaded question I assume. I guess what I want to ask can I lose what has been done to this point?



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 13:15:17)

The reason that I & a lot do not like the hover buttons is because it uses Java. And ever since that rift between Microsift & Sun, java has not been the same.

To use that menu, you should know some HTML. I can help you out some. If you like @ the merchant account web site - you can see the horizontal menu there as well - with the colors, etc.

I would get rid of those hover buttons & think of a new way to navigate thru the site. Something that will not take long to load.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 13:28:01)

That function on your site is very attractive. Not knowing much on the HTML arena I'm concerned but not to a point of not wanting to try it. I've never read anything about the coward, Have you?



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 13:45:44)

Well it is very easy to work with but you do need to know some basic HTML. Have you considered using just text links?



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 13:48:12)

At this stage of the game I'll use what it takes to get this off my shoulders and I'll look into where I goofed up later.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 13:53:02)

You really did not goof up, just the hover buttons are a big pain. Especially for beginners. Use text links. Your readers will thank you. A lot easier to load.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 15:09:09)

ok all is squared away! I simply went back to the insert / component / hover button / and redone the instructions to those buttons that were missing the information to navigate with. All others fell in place. I would like to extend a hardy thank you for all the time spent with my problem to Corey, You was a very encouraging support. It's really nice to find people that are will to help the lost and found department of which I'm glad I'm a member of!!

I hope my night mare history with these buttons helps someone else in the future.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 17:51:05)

I thought all was well although I can see my web page well from the server on my computer I reached over to my other computer to find that the fonts were not the same they were at default. Half of the link were buttons were blank as when you have not saved them.

I must assume something or information stayed with my hard driver which allows me to see everything right but did not transfer which in effect causes the server and other computers to lack information such as links and fonts.

Or would this still be related to the hover.class files? Can someone look at http://www.servohut.com and tell me if all buttons are visible to you, and that they relate to a link?



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 17:58:55)

They are working on my computer - so now I know that fphover.class is in the root folder.

The other computer - do you know if it has java installed? This is the problem that your users will run into that I warned you about. The buttons on the Hitec Select Buttons buttons did not work. Maybe too much java?



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 18:24:15)

What a pain....... if this is going to be a potencial condition with the viewers why would anyone want to use this manner of linking? Can some information still be on my hard drive that did not make it to the server?



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 19:27:42)

Well with me going to http://www.servohut.com/ & I am able all 12 buttons on that page, the answer would be no. Since I am able to see them there - the paths are correct.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 19:48:30)

Corey you see the 12 buttons but do they lead you to the servos? That is where the hang up is. The fonts should be Viner Hand which is what I see on the originating computer but not the other, which by the way has those fonts on file. HHHHhuuuummm. Went here:http://www.msfrontpage.net/fp/phoveronwebhtm.htm and the answer seemed to still be in the sticky hover buttons. I'm ready to vote with you on those critters being anti sociable.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 19:51:27)

As far as the fonts, if a person does not have the specified font installed on their system, that font cannot be displayed.

I did not click on 12 buttons - only a few. Which one does not lead you to a servohut page?



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 20:25:28)

Any button that does not have a link as in (contact) (RMA) works fine. But when you ask for a servo click on (GWS) a list of servos should come to view which will lead you to the specific servo you want info. on Try Hitec that too should take you to the list. Also the two links below the banner are blank. All of this is on the computer that was not involved in the making of these pages. The active computer see's all very well.



coreybryant -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 20:31:16)

This goes to once again where your fphover.class is. The nav button at the top are using:

<applet code="fphover.class" codebase="../" width="30" height="8">

Which means that is it pulling fphover.class from one folder up in the file structure. The others are pulling:

applet code="fphover.class" codebase="../fphover/" width="631" height="17">

Which means it is trying to locate fphover.class one folder up & in the fphover folder. Try this as a workaround... create fphover in the mainfolder & copy fphover.class into that folder.

If it fails, once again - I cannot stress to get rid of all of that java.



yasmin -> RE: some of my link buttons missing (10/3/2003 21:16:16)

Thanks Corey I'm giving up on this hover game.

I've got a KEP theme that I may as well try. I assume I can still use a large amount of the work put into gathering all those jpgs and htm files. This will get me buttons and change some stuff around. I hope not to visit this issue again so I will find away with a softer outcome.

Looking up this problem on some of the support pages available I see that this is not an uncommon problem. Those hover critters have bit many a person. For those that got away clean with the buttons I applaud you, you have conquered the beast, BUT beware for it is sort of SLOW giving up the LINK to a USER (Corey I saw that info. elsewhere so your not alone)

I will swallow my humble pill and scoot out of your hair. Thanks a bunch Corey you rode the beast with me. It's a bear to be new...but sorta fun too.



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