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  		RE: css homework - 11/3/2003 13:34:07   
BTWE the link to how the cascade works is here:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS1

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  		RE: wahooo, nancy/pageone - 11/3/2003 14:06:16   
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On site, it is failing validation for the @import. Which, I thought was part of css standard?


http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m_165257/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#165257

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  		RE: css homework - 11/3/2003 14:46:07   
And another thing - you naughty panjandurumilla! :)

Assuming that the comment in your code referring to @import was an attempt to import testimport2.css then you must include the fule name in "quotes"

"testimport2.css" - try that and see if it works :)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/3/2003 14:52:16   
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!

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  		RE: css homework - 11/3/2003 20:31:10   
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The advantage to use @import is that noncompliant browsers don't understand it.

You can take advantage of this and (almost) get a btrowser sniffer. Do like this:

1. Create the stylesheet that you want for example Netscape 4 to use and write the standard <link> tag into the HEAD section of the HTML to bring it in.

2. Create the stylesheet that you want all the more compliant browsers to use (EG Netscape 6 and up, IE5.5 and up. Opera 5.12 and up, Mozilla).

3. Bring the stylesheet you created in step 2 AFTER the first one, and use the @import method -

a. Either by @import "stylesheet2.css" or

b. @import url("stylesheet2.css") - ( DO NOT use another <link> tag.

Doing this makes that more compliant browsers will get the second set of styles, because the cascade
will "overwrite" the first, linked stylesheet. IOW as Netscape 4.x doesn't support @import, it "sees" only the first set of rules. Soyou've tricked @import into working like browser sniffer that zeros in on a very buggy browsers



I think that I have done this correctly on the one page in here. From reading what you wrote, I think that I might have it correct. I now have to work on validating css and xhtml. Several pages were ok until I loaded and added the counter, now I have to go through them all again. But that is ok, as it is a great learning tool.

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  		RE: css homework - 11/4/2003 12:37:32   
Yes you have it correctly done - i was teasing you slightly and saying that if you uncommented that comment and put in the quotes where I suggested that you might see something interesting :-)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/4/2003 12:54:20   
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Yes you have it correctly done - i was teasing you slightly and saying that if you uncommented that comment and put in the quotes where I suggested that you might see something interesting :-)


Hmm am going to take you up on that tease:)

Off for a slight nap. then off to change the things that you are speaking of:)

thanks!

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  		RE: css homework - 11/4/2003 12:55:15   
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And another thing - you naughty panjandurumilla

roflol! I just seen this one!

Must have been in a doh mode!:):):)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/4/2003 21:34:21   
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Must have been in a doh mode!


:) - ROFLOL - :) - I love that. :)

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  		RE: jesper/css homework - 11/5/2003 16:49:24   
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Yes you have it correctly done - i was teasing you slightly and saying that if you uncommented that comment and put in the quotes where I suggested that you might see something interesting :-)


hmm I removed the quotes as you suggested from testimport2.css.

What I have is that the boxes don't line up in IE! Weird! I'm going to put them back in to see if they line back up.

Not sure if this is what you wanted me to see. But this is the only thing that I see. It still imports the stylesheet, but it does so incorrectly.

<edit>:):) Now, I added the " back in to the imported stylesheet 2, BUT the page is still bonkers! rrhhhhh!!</edit>

< Message edited by c1sissy -- 11/5/2003 5:27:46 PM >

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  		RE: jesper/css homework - 11/5/2003 18:31:10   
Bear with it - you're getting the results that i'd expected/hoped you would - what you're seeing is two things:

1 - the cascade in action.

2: - That some browsers have "issues" with urls enclosed in quotation marks.

This one is very worth persevering with. comment and uncomment all your all style sheet links. Experiment with putting in quotes. Singe double etc. - Write down what happens in each browser after each experiment. And you'll know what to do in future when the cascade doesn't behave the way you think it should.

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  		RE: jesper/css homework - 11/5/2003 19:37:47   
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Bear with it - you're getting the results that i'd expected/hoped you would - what you're seeing is two things:

1 - the cascade in action.

2: - That some browsers have "issues" with urls enclosed in quotation marks.

This one is very worth persevering with. comment and uncomment all your all style sheet links. Experiment with putting in quotes. Singe double etc. - Write down what happens in each browser after each experiment. And you'll know what to do in future when the cascade doesn't behave the way you think it should.

HEh HEH, guess what I did? I cheated, and added the prolog, brought it right back to where it was :)

So, now that I know that it should work, I'll have to play with the sizes to get them to move back to where they were.
:)And, I had so been proud of that page, They say though, that pride comes before a fall! :)

Appreciate the lesson, and promise not to send you a pile of banana skins! roflol:):):):)
Oh, and all lessons are welcome!:):)

< Message edited by c1sissy -- 11/5/2003 7:38:29 PM >

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  		RE: jesper/css homework - 11/5/2003 22:27:15   
Quirks mode :-)

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  		RE: jesper/css homework - 11/5/2003 22:28:02   
Quirks mode :-)

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  		RE: jesper/css homework - 11/6/2003 6:33:38   
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Quirks mode :-)


roflol, yes the term eluded me when I was posting. I was going to say that I sent it into
quirk
to work!
:):):):)

I'm having a problem with the host though right now. For some reason in my online editor, all of my code is in one continuous line. Causing some line breaks where not needed. Also placing more then one closing body and html with code in between this. I have tried several times to fix this and each time I do it goes right back to how it was when I logged into the editing part of the site. I have emailed them, and they are really good about responding, so I am going there now to see if they have. Saving does nothing. IT retains the things that I delete.:)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/8/2003 17:30:21   
I"m in a new css class which doesn't give a template to work from.

What I am doing right now is using my "future one day to be" craft site that I am hand coding.

here is the after link

http://c.1asphost.com/c1sissy/index.htm
This has a style sheet attached, and a tiny tad of inline style as per homework assignment. I have heard from a friend that is in this course that they will tear you up in here. Which is good for learning!

before link
http://c.1asphost.com/c1sissy/index.html

This is before I started to change things around.

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  		RE: css homework - 11/8/2003 18:04:43   
Getting the Crafts Store site ready?

The wife is ready with her credit card. :):):)

Glad to see things moving. :)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/11/2003 1:31:49   
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Getting the Crafts Store site ready?

The wife is ready with her credit card. :):):)

Glad to see things moving. :)


http://c.1asphost.com/c1sissy/products.htm

I have a start on a photo layout. I used the photoshop program to do this and had to change things around because I didn't create folders when loading up the pictures etc.. to the file manager, No biggie though as it was a good learning experience on reading and changing code around to work. wheww, I'm soo tired. been at this for about 4 hours!

Of course now i need to figure out how to turn this all into css instead of just a few inline items.:)

off to slumber land.

< Message edited by c1sissy -- 11/11/2003 1:32:53 AM >

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  		RE: css homework - 11/11/2003 7:36:46   
Your first 15 products look nice on the page. :)

The enlarged photos look clear. :)

Now time for the CSS fun... :)

Don't forget those funky revenue price tags too. :)

Once your done completely, I'll send Gloria to the site. :)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/11/2003 7:55:55   
:):):)

Get this, the page validated for xhtml, then I ran the css validator, it validated, NOW it is failing for the information that I put in there for xhtml from the css thingie!:):):)

The paragraph that has the link to the validation page is failing! GO FIGURE!

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  		RE: css homework/styles question - 11/22/2003 17:32:11   
My next lesson involves embeding styles. No biggie I know how to do this.

My question, since I am using a page that I am trying to create on my own, and all the products are in a table. Is it possible to style a table?

I don't want the answers, a tutorial etc.. would be helpful. I have spent the past several days looking online for something to help me out, went through my books, nothing seems to be answering my question here.

here is the page that I would like to know this for
http://c.1asphost.com/c1sissy/products.htm

I suppose the areas in question that I would like to style are the borders, I did find a tad on that, as well as the fonts inside the cells, and how would I work this along with the pictures in the table? sheesh, I hope I'm making my thoughts clear. I'm going sort of nutso from searching.

Also, should the "christmas crafts' go into the table as a caption?

Thanks in advance

< Message edited by c1sissy -- 11/22/2003 5:32:54 PM >

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  		RE: css homework/styles question - 11/22/2003 18:27:15   
Hi Deb,

Long time no hear.
Figured you were going loco with your CSS.
I know nothing about this but I did a little searching on google for you and located these sites.
You probably seen them, before right?
Their all about tables.
Hope this helps. :)

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=tables&sp-a=00010499-sp00000000

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/tables.html

http://www.nic.fi/~tapio1/HTMLKit/CSSInst.php3

http://www.nic.fi/~tapio1/HTMLKit/sivukarttaCss.php

And a CSS Forum too:

http://www.ahfb2000.com/webmaster_help_desk/showthread.php?threadid=2338

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  		RE: css homework/styles question - 11/23/2003 7:32:54   
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My question, since I am using a page that I am trying to create on my own, and all the products are in a table. Is it possible to style a table?




Yes - exactly as you would any other element.

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  		RE: css homework/styles question - 11/23/2003 11:06:17   
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Hi Deb,

Long time no hear.
Figured you were going loco with your CSS.
I know nothing about this but I did a little searching on google for you and located these sites.
You probably seen them, before right?
Their all about tables.
Hope this helps. :)

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=tables&sp-a=00010499-sp00000000

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/tables.html

http://www.nic.fi/~tapio1/HTMLKit/CSSInst.php3

http://www.nic.fi/~tapio1/HTMLKit/sivukarttaCss.php

And a CSS Forum too:

http://www.ahfb2000.com/webmaster_help_desk/showthread.php?threadid=2338

:)

Thanks LIL, I am taking a look at these, and am actually a member of this forum!? lol, sort of forgot! And yes, my silence is a large indicator of how "locco" I have been going between reading viewing source and all that goes along with this! lol.


quote:


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ORIGINAL: c1sissy

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My question, since I am using a page that I am trying to create on my own, and all the products are in a table. Is it possible to style a table?




Yes - exactly as you would any other element.

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Thanks Jesper, I guess I have been searching myself crazy thinking that it was too easy?

Any questions or problems, I'll be back.:)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/23/2003 11:14:28   
As a purely practical point it is often better to do the broadbrush stuff positioning etc, to the <table> element. And do the detailed presentational work to the <td> elements.

Different for everbody of course and very circumstance dependent but a useful guideline even so.

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  		RE: css homework - 11/23/2003 11:36:09   
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As a purely practical point it is often better to do the broadbrush stuff positioning etc, to the <table> element. And do the detailed presentational work to the <td> elements.

Different for everbody of course and very circumstance dependent but a useful guideline even so.


With the <td>, or with the <table> do I set the font-family and color if I prefer that it be a tad different from the body and p? (instructor recomends setting the font-family in both body and p, font-size only in p)

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  		RE: css homework - 11/23/2003 11:53:55   
Your instructor is correct in as much as that is one way of doing it, and as good a way as any, ie it is valid.

(You can also adopt the technique that I outline here:

http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-164304/tm.htm )

However you need to bear in mind the inheritance bug in IE which can and regularly does prevent the inheritance cascading down to <td> child selectors. From the <body> and <html> selectors.

In order to avoid this I explicitly declare fonts for all table related selectors.

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  		RE: css homework - 11/23/2003 12:15:45   
When you use this "*" what does it represent?

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  		RE: css homework - 11/23/2003 12:21:05   
* = global, or "this rule applies to everything."

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  		RE: css homework - 11/23/2003 12:29:02   
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* = global, or "this rule applies to everything."


Thank you O wise and wonderful instructor!:)

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