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Murray
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Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 6/30/2001 20:57:00
I have started putting a site together using the Outfront "Black and White" template. I would appreciate comments and suggestions. The site is at http://www.hawkesbay.com Hawkes Bay is a province of New Zealand, on the east coast of the North Island. Thanks and regards,
Murray Potts
murray@potts.co.nz
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Goober
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 6/30/2001 17:09:00
It looks very, very nice.I'm not sure I'd put Hawkesbay.com in the header twice, though. It's a little redundant. I think adding some pictures of the area to your site would really polish it off. Best wishes,
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Murray
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 6/30/2001 19:33:00
Hi Sandy,Thanks, excellent obsevation regading my use of hawkesbay.com twice in the header. I've changed it now, and it certainly looks MUCH better. Thanks! I will be adding lots of photos, as soon as I'm happy with the overall design. Best regards,
Murray Potts
murray@potts.co.nz
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Goober
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 6/30/2001 20:05:00
ohhhh, yes. I wondered which one you'd use. I liked them both.Sandy ------------------
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gorilla
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 6/30/2001 21:17:00
ooooh lovely I'm sure I've seen this site before - you've been very busy and it shows. Works a treat using opera.
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Murray
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/2/2001 20:31:00
Thank for your comments! Does anybody know how I can modify the BlackonWhite template (from Outfront) so that the underlining of hyperlinks only appear when the cursor is over the link? I'm not familiar with css and am having trouble trying to figure it out. Thanks in advance. Murray Potts
murray@potts.co.nz
http://www.hawkesbay.com
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Bill Nicol
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/2/2001 13:19:00
Brilliant, positively brilliant !!Just visited the site. It's beautiful and clearly gets its message across. Lovely job, well done !! ![]("http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/ubb/cool.gif") ------------------
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SuperConductor
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/2/2001 18:03:00
Great site...Lots of Info.One suggestion...Since every header in the center of the home page contains Hawkes Bay, do you really need to repeat it so many times. Instead of 'Hawkes Bay Real Estate', why not just 'Area Real Estate'...or something of that nature. Just a thought. Still, it's a fantastic site. As far as underlining the link only when you hover over it...I did not see an HTML reference to a StyleSheet link when viewing the source code for your home page. I don't believe the FP2000 Templates will allow for the effect you are looking for. You could add something like this to your HTML code under the <HEAD> tags: <STYLE>
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A:hover
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COLOR: #000000;
FONT-FAMILY: Verdana, Helvetica, Arial;
TEXT-DECORATION: underline
}
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</STYLE> ...but you would have to do it to every page and you would have to set 'TEXT-DECORATION: none' for the a, a:active, and a:visited tags. It may be more trouble than it's worth. Check out http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ for more info on CSS. Also, FrontPage allows you to set the Rollover Effects in the Page Properties - Background tab, but this option is no longer available when you have a template applied to your web. Hope this helps...Good luck. SuperConductor [This message has been edited by SuperConductor (edited 07-02-2001).]
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Murray
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/2/2001 19:58:00
It is amazing just how encouraging and constructive it is to present a site here for critique. In the past I would spend many frustrating hours trying to appraise my own work. I am so happy I found this forum. Thanks all!Hello SuperConductor! You are right about all the "Hawkes Bay's" in the directory, and I have removed tham all. I put them in originally for two reasons: (1) I was getting people from all over the world using the ADD URL, and I was to make it abundantly clear that I only accept Hawkes Bay Sites, and (2) I was trying to tilt the search engines my way by planting a bunch of exact-match keywords relevent to my area. ![]("http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/ubb/smile.gif") Hawkes Bay Sport, Hawkes Bay Tourism etc. But I don't think it is so necessary, and the page certainly is more user friendly and cleaner without all that extra baggage. Thanks for the tip. About CSS... Now I am totally perplexed. The "Black on White" template came with about 5 or 6 css files in the _themes directory. I could never figure out what they connected to. It seems strange that they are there if themes cannot use css. Maybe the template designer was trying a few ideas out, then settled for themes over css, but didn't remove all the surplus files before uploading the template to Outfront. Thanks for providing the STYLES code. I need to think about whether or not I use it by pasting into all the pages. Best regards,
Murray Potts
murray@potts.co.nz
http://www.hawkesbay.com
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LB
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/3/2001 20:44:00
Hi, Murray - The site is looking very nice indeed. Since the css is in the theme files it is probably FP generated. FP allows you to apply a theme using css, but I HIGHLY recommend that you don't do that. (fp doesn't write css all that well) Linda
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burnspot
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/3/2001 18:52:00
Nice looking site Murray! I haven't gone over it with a fine-toothed comb, but I thought it was funny that 2 NZ-related sites should show themselves in the Critique section at about the same time :-) (see my request for a critique). You put heaps of information on your site!!!------------------
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www.burnspot.net- Family Genealogy
www.wainuiomata.com- About Wainuiomata, NZ
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Murray
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/6/2001 20:14:00
Hi Scott (Burnspot),Thanks for your comments. Yep, no matter where I go I bump into kiwis! (I think I'll start putting a Canadian flag on my backpack). Our two sites have a lot in common. I really like you thumbnail gallery http://www.wainuiomata.com/photos.htm ...did you use a thumbnail generator program, or did you set it up your self? Either way, it looks great. Good luck with your site, I'll be keeping my eye on it. Best regards,
Murray Potts
murray@potts.co.nz
http://www.hawkesbay.com
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burnspot
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RE: Site critiqe please (site uses Outfront template) - 7/8/2001 20:10:00
Hi Murray,Glad you like the site! My fiance did almost all the work on this particular site though; I configured the forum and made the guestbook. She created the photo album by hand, I agree, it's pretty cool looking. Ha ha, by the way, I'm not Kiwi, that's the fiance ![]("http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/ubb/wink.gif") I'm just an average Yank... ------------------
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www.burnspot.net- Family Genealogy [This message has been edited by burnspot (edited 07-08-2001).]
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