Thanks, I appreciate any advice/input/whatever!!

www.intraspin.com/glentruim

Iain

2nd: - The "splash" does nothing except force your visitors to make an extra "click".

3rd: - After the splash page I get this - This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.

Seems like you forgot the NOFRAMES content...

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I highly agree with the points Gil made, but instead of adding noframes content I would suggest you do this site without using frames at all. There is no need for them here. In lower resolutions and smaller sized windows, your navigation is completely lost and frames also keep many search engines out.

That being said, I LOVE this B&B! On each of the photos, click on the image and on the image toolbar you will find a tool to resample. As each photo is resampled, it will greatly reduce the load time. As they are now, you have reduced the size of the photo shown but not that of the actual file.

You're doing very well for your first site. Is this your family's B&B?

Linda

Sorry about the keywords - the reason I did that was because I was worried that search engines wouldn't pick up the 'quick-loading intro-page' and skip to the slower homepage.

What's a splash? Is that my quick-loading page? lol - I guess that was a mistake!

About the frames - Yeah, I was worried about them - I read about the resizing problems etc. and also the fact that no all pages support them. The only reason I made use of frames was that I had this idea that with them, the user was only loading the page, but that without them, the user would be loading the page and the header each time. Again I was worried about speed - but after learning more having it up on the web now, I don't thing the header really takes long - is that right? (I just realised - Ahh, so that's what that 'No Frames' tab is for! duh!?!¿) So in theory I would have put the whole site under that 'No Frames' tab, only w/o the frames? However instead, I'm just going to get rid of the frames all together?

And lastly I have resampled all my pictures. It hasn't reduced the picture quality has it?

Well that covers it all so far - thanks, I really appreciate your help, input and encouragement.

Iain

Iain - Yes, the splash page is the first page that is quick loading.

You should be able to delete the frame.htm page and then continue to use the pages you already made. None of the pages will then be showing a frame tab. The header could be used as an include page (on each of your other pages, insert > component > include page > browse > choose your header) OR highlight and copy the header, apply a top shared border to all pages, and paste the content into that shared border.

Either way will allow you to make any changes to that portion of the page just once and have it applied to all the pages.

The resampled photos aren't showing yet for me. Have you published the changes?

Be sure to change your monitor resolutions and check the site that way also, so you know what it looks like.

Linda

Of course I couldn't resist checking this one out. Been to Scotland (Skye, Portree) several times, but more about that another time. Always looking for a good place.

In agreement with all of above....lovely site, but something a bit strange happened when I visited. The links were strangely truncated on the bottom half...however, when I used one of them, and returned, they were aligned okay. Not sure what caused that, I'm using IE 5.0

How's your weather? It's hovering around 100 degrees (F) here in Springfield, Illinois. I must be a mad piper, did a parade in this heat yesterday afternoon. But then, our whole P&D band was there so I guess we're all a bit daft...

So I should jsut delete the splash page, so people will just go directly to the homepage? That makes sense - I guess there's no need for the quick loading intro since the homepage should load fast anyway?

I'm guessing then that the header won't slow the sites load time much at all either? So I can delete the frame.htm - and make the homepage (the one with the 'Welcome to the Glentruim B&B Website...) into index.htm?

I can see how to do the insert component method - which seems to work well. The other I thinks may be better -I tried it, but there's a few things not working quite right (loke the links load in new windows, I'm guessing because of the loss of the frame page) but I'll work with it for a bit and get back to you. (For the moment I'll do it in a copy, so I don't screw anything up.)

When you say change your resolutions, do you mean changing my moniter's resolution and viewing the site in IE5?

So basically, I should just never use frames?

And Bill - I've been known to do some mad things sometimes too! Had I stayed another year in the States I would have played the sax in the marching band for my school - unfortunately I missed out. The weather here at the moment is being a bit strange - we've had a week or so of absolutely gorgeous weather - reminding me of PA, but we've had a couple colder, wetter days recently (it is Scotland though!).

Thanks again Linda,

Iain

Let me tell you that this forum is absolutely fab... I've learned so much stuff about FrontPage and website building, and I don't even really do that for a living. Just built one website (www.macnicol.org) and I learned a very valuable lesson with that one.... templates. Bought a reasonable template from Outfront and bingo, bango, bongo, I was up and running with a good, clean, professional looking site.

Also some recurring themes pervade as well:

Tables, tables, tables.
Frames only if have to.
Sensitivity to all browsers.
Care in font usage and colors.
FP extensions on your server.
Use Publish.
Care in metaname usage.
Descriptions for all pictures.
Don't use rollover buttons.
No Flash if possible...or other animations.
Listen to the advice of the moderators... they've been there, done that.

and many more....I think you get the idea.

So, if you haven't already, poke around a bit, read all the FAQ's and other stuff packed away here, and Bob's your uncle .... you're on your way to fabulous website development.

Have a great day....

Hope this helps, and may come up and visit an och aye the noo m'uns palace someday!

Agree with others to get rid of splash page and frames.

Thanks also Bill, again, for the advice. But how does one make sure one's site is accessible by all browsers, other than keeping it simple so as not to go beyond some browsers' capabilities (or putting alternative routs) - I suppose this is the idea, but how do you know what those capabilities are?
I'd ask what rollover buttons are, but since I shouldn't use them I guess there's no need!

To All, I shall be making all the changes suggested tomorrow (wednesday 11) (such as resampling and the demolition of frames!), so I'd love it if you'd tell me what you think of the improvements, since you've helped so much.

Thanks again,

Iain

By being sensitive to the fact that there are different browsers and versions, and by taking the advice of the people at Outfront, you do about as much as you can do to ensure that most, if not all browsers will be able to process your site.

You're doing very well already, shouldn't have to worry about this issue.

Weather cooled off here temporarily... it's down to a comfortable 92....

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