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RightClique -> Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/13/2003 8:17:12)

I am using FrontPage 2002 and publishing to an apache server running FrontPage Extensions 2002 (Version 5).

I am frustrated as a result of trying to publish a quite simple Photo Gallery that is a subpage off my main page. Within FrontPage all looks fine, after I publish and click the navigation bar to go to my Photo Gallery I am present with the Photo Gallery page (minus the photos) inside another PhotoGallery page with the following error where the photo set should be:

[photogallery/photo32149/photogallery/photo32149/real.htm]

Notice the duplication in the path.

If I load the URL www.webname.com/photogallery/photo32149/real.htm it displays the photo gallery fine; naturally absent of the nav bars and frames.

What the heck am I missing or doing wrong. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks,
Brian




Larry M. -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/13/2003 11:07:50)

"subpage off my main page" "I load the URL"

Brian,

I am not familiar with these terms nor can I get a real feel for your problem without actually viewing your site [:-] The best way to get OutFront Forum members to help you is to always include a link.

Even though you mention "publish" my guess, and that's all it is, the problem/solution will probably surface in this area.




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/13/2003 11:36:00)

Larry,

Thanks for the reply.

Sorry about the terminology. I am rather new to FrontPage and have hacked my way to learning it ; at least to the point I am now.

Simply my photo page is a page below my Home (index.htm) referenced by the navigation bars.

Here is the URL: http://www.brianchapin.com/photo.htm

After playing around for a while I have got the photo page to show, as you can see, simply by dragging "real.htm" to the top level directory

Thanks again, any advice or help is appreciated.
Brian




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/13/2003 12:30:13)

I must be missing something!

I created an new page, inserted WebComponent PhotoGallery, added some photos, looks great in FP. Publish it to the web, load the page and the same problem exists: the page in a page, the full page is repeated in the main frame of the page and no photos just the repeated path as stated earlier.

Brian




Larry M. -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/14/2003 13:54:17)

quote:

I must be missing something!


Brian,

This will be an incomplete reply since I am not a programmer but many OutFronters' are. Moving your problem back to the top of the stack will hopefully give it new visibility and renewed interest from the real experts.

Your source code indicates a CSS document parse tree error which squares with duplication found in the path statement. You've demonstrated proper procedure building other parent pages so my guess is you deviated from this along the way. Instead of chasing code, a faster fix might be to entirely delete the page (right click, delete, delete this page from the web) then start from scratch by file/new blank page, etc.

I do recommend you work with templates rather than themes in the future. Doing so will help head off these types of problems since they come W3c compliant and are completely debugged. An excellent selection of reasonably priced templates is available from Tom Brunt, btw.

In any case, I wish I could contribute more [X(]




BeTheBall -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/15/2003 10:32:30)

Your server extensions are either not installed, corrupt or otherwise not working correctly. I am guessing you inserted real.htm into photo.htm as an include. FP has a webbot that does the include and relies on the extensions. Another reason I think the extensions are not working correctly has to do with your guestbook. If you visit your guestbook page, you will see:

[FrontPage Save Results Component]

A classic sign of an extensions problem.

One last thing. When you say publish, you mean publish, not ftp, right? If you are ftp'ing your site the extensions will not work correctly.




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/17/2003 22:48:09)

betheball - I have control over the server since it is my Linux server. I recently installed FP Unix Extensions Version 5 2002 to attempt to resolve the phot gallery problem. It appears the some of the FP extensions are working properly, ie hit counter. I cannot find quality FP Unix extension documentation and therefore I am not 100% sure it all is functioning correctly. As for your question regardin my approach to file transfer - I am 'publishing' not FTP'ing to my server

Larry M - I have created a new web and a brand new photo gallery and the exact problem exists.

Still at a loss.

Thanks for your continued help.
Brian




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/18/2003 10:33:29)

OK - I have created a completely new web from the Personal Template within FrontPage - left the Photo Gallery page untouched and as you can see the problem still exists.

It should not be this difficult I'm sure.
Help - I'm getting closer and closer to the edge!

Thanks
Brian




Larry M. -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/18/2003 11:48:45)

quote:

I have created a completely new web from the Personal Template within FrontPage - left the Photo Gallery page untouched and as you can see the problem still exists


Brian,

It looks as though you are moving the real.htm page into the photo.htm page rather than constructing the photo gallery within photo.htm. If this is the case, it would account for the duplicate path statement and the resulting page within a page look. If not, see below[:(].

Since this site is, essentially, your online resume and presumably critical to your future business success, I continue to think a professional CSS template would help you put your best foot forward. I can help with suggestions if you wish.

p.s. I am a former N. Tonawanda resident and my wife grew up in Buffalo. As a then corporate business executive, I recruited extensively at UB, SUCB, Bonaventure, Cornell and Niagara.




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/18/2003 17:22:28)

Larry,

In the lastest test I have used the template generated forms unmodified. And the problem is still there.

The page is more of a project to learn FP then a tool to market myself. Nonethless thanks for the informcation. BTW I'm In Grand Island.

Thanks again,
Brian




bcoultry -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/18/2003 19:38:06)

I'm pretty much a neophyte, but I got interested in this problem and so went to your site to see what you were talking about. Though I haven't the foggiest notion of how it happened, I did see WHERE it was happening in the source code.

All you experts out there: couldn't that extra, unwanted code simply be deleted?




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/18/2003 20:44:29)

bcoultry - Thanks for the reply.

It's not that I can't hack the code to get it to work, I can and have as a test. I'm just really trying to figure out why it is not working natively.

Thanks again,
Brian




BeTheBall -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/18/2003 21:53:17)

Brian, it is the extensions. I have never touched a Unix machine so I cannot tell you why they are not all working, but just to test my theory, I imported your site to my test server (hope you don't mind). I didn't apply your theme, but look at the photo page. It works as intended. This tells me the extensions are not working on your server.

Here is a link to your page on my site:

http://www.thatswhatido.net/Zyconinc/photo.htm

Whatever extension handles FP includes is not working. Sorry I cannot be of more help, but at least this should tell you where to focus your efforts.

Maybe try here:

http://www.rtr.com/Ready-to-Run_Software/frontpage_server_extensions.htm




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/19/2003 9:10:11)

Thank you very much for the effort and direction. You are a gentleman and a scholar!

This is what I was looking for - proof that it is the server, not me or the product.

I'm going hunting.

Thanks again,
Brian




RightClique -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (11/19/2003 11:27:20)

I found the following on the site refered above. Interesting actually a couple of references. Definetly seems like 'my' problem. No resolutions to be found however.



broken includes
From:
Date: 24 Feb 2003
Time: 15:45:36 -0500
Remote Name: 68.159.144.2


Comments
My website is hosted by a service running Red Hat 7.2 and Frontpage 2002 extensions provided by RTR I beleive. They recently upgraded to Frontpage 2002 Server extensions along with other upgrades. Following this upgrade we exerienced the symptoms listed in Mirosoft article No 2989360. The symptoms are: After you upgrade your Microsoft Internet Information Services-based Web site to FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions or SharePoint Team Services from Microsoft, the include components and shared borders are not displayed correctly. The body of the main page is displayed as part of the shared border or the include component, appearing to duplicate data throughout the page. Also, after you insert a PhotoGallery or an Include page, you see the path to the page rather than the content of the page. In Normal view in FrontPage, the page appears correctly, but when you view it in a Web browser, you see only the path.




arturo -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (2/25/2004 17:27:45)

OK. The same thing is happening to me. Here's the screenshots. The first is in my "preview in web broswer", the second is in the actual web browser. FP extensions were just reloaded. Funny thing is there are two photo galleries in this site but only the one is having this problem.

[image]local://upfiles/7903/Hf996681196.jpg[/image]




arturo -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (2/25/2004 17:30:32)

here's the other

so i have been at this all day long and it is driving me just insane :o

i also noticed that there is some old text in the uploaded non working photo gallery page.

[image]local://upfiles/7903/Db838642866.jpg[/image]




arturo -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (2/25/2004 17:36:49)

BTW, i also completely removed the site from the server and republished it after the extensions were reinstalled. The "working" photo gallery continues to work. The "non working" photo gallery continues to not work.

Again, the peculiar thing is that there is text on the web page that should have been wiped out by the removal of the site from the server and the republish. I can't find it in the HTML, and I'm just plain stumped.




arturo -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (2/26/2004 11:24:08)

Well for now I just built a table, dragged the pictures into each cell, made auto-thumbnails and tidied it up a little bit. In the meantime, if anyone knows of a decent photogallery program, i'd love to know. tried jalbum and swishpix, but i'm looking for something more corporate looking. Thanks. ARturo




Acadia -> RE: Just about ready to Jumpppp! (2/26/2004 19:00:26)

Have you tried Adobe's "Photo Album"? I have heard some nice things about it.




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