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pcguy
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New Web Site Version - 8/15/2001 23:15:00
Hoping I can get a few folks to check out my new web site.The Flash intro only appears for IE. I've had one user have strange refresh problems with IE (in the main pages), but all other IE users seem to be OK so far. The only glitch in NN I've seen so far is a strange table distortion on the top right of all the pages...and weird little boxes near the submit/clear buttons. I'm thinking something to do with the CSS. Site was done entirely with FP2000 & ASP. Can I get some input? Thanks!
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Bill Nicol
Posts: 1445 From: Springfield IL USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/15/2001 13:13:00
Hi PCGuy,Very nice site indeed. I'm looking at it from the office and unable to see the flash part. Flash intros are kind of frowned upon around here, mainly due to load time. However, I've seen some really elegant ones and believe they can, depending upon the circumstances, keep or turn off potential site visitors. Your call on that one. I'm using IE5. Nav seems okay and works, however, in the site nav box, the bluish background doesn't refresh unless I scroll it off the page and back. That is, when I go to 'contact' for instance, I get there okay, but the nav box is mostly white until I scroll up and down. The actual nav seems to work okay, but because of this color problem, it gives the impression that something isn't quite right with the site. Wish I could offer more assistance there, but I'm sure someone else will help out. Basically, I like it save for this one minor glitch. Simple, clean, functional, and gets the message across right away. I especially like the little surfer dude..  Good luck
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pcguy
Posts: 125 From: None Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/15/2001 13:25:00
Thanks-I need to fix the color problem - hopefully someone can help. As far as the flash, its 37K, loads in about 2 seconds on a 56K connection, and I've got a lot of positive feedback on the flash intro (it's my first one)... PLEASE - if anyone knows how to fix the color problem, please let me know! Thanks-
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Bill Nicol
Posts: 1445 From: Springfield IL USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/15/2001 13:34:00
It just happens that in another thread, they were discussing modem speeds, etc. You might like to check this out and then check the site they mention near the end of the thread. It has lots of stats on connections being used, etc.... and good tips for webmasters as well. Try this: http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/004701.htmlHopefully, we'll get the color problem fixed up....there's some pretty sharp graphics types out here.
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gorilla
Posts: 2974 From: Denmark Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/16/2001 20:18:00
Works a treat under opera 5.12 nice goodlooking and speedy site. Didn't have the colour problem Bill mentioned. Did find "We put our reputations online " very hard to read. other than that no beefs. 9.75 out of 10 i think  mark
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pcguy
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/16/2001 20:27:00
quote: Originally posted by gorilla: Works a treat under opera 5.12 nice goodlooking and speedy site. Didn't have the colour problem Bill mentioned. Did find "We put our reputations online " very hard to read. other than that no beefs. 9.75 out of 10 i think  mark
Thanks - I'll touch up our slogan graphics...the drop shadow is a little to dark, so it appears blurry....thanks for the comments.
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Goober
Posts: 1156 From: Pennsylvania USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/17/2001 20:44:00
Hi.I just have a few comments. The colors are pleasing. It's good that you kept the site simple and easy to navigate. In NN 4.7 there is white extending past the gold border at the top. You might try vertically aligning to middle, or dropping just a tad, the company name and slogan to see if that balances the header a little better. I like the way you have made the text area to appear raised. However, the top of the "box" gets lost in the background. Maybe give the background the teensyest shade of gray...like the smallest amount you can? I didn't see any alt attributes for the graphics. Don't forget your keyword and description meta tags. Best wishes, Sandy ------------------ Stu Reilly Design Allegheny Web Dreamweaver Sites
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pcguy
Posts: 125 From: None Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/17/2001 20:10:00
Great comments - thanks...That weird "extention" I noticed in NN too. I'll try what you suggested. Yes, I still need to add alt tags. As far as the raised content sections, and the top of it being lost was actually intended. I thought it gives it a neat "abstract" appeal because the mind actually "fills in the rest". In any case, I still need to do some "touch ups" - and thanks again for your help.
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pcguy
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/17/2001 19:15:00
WOO HOO!Sandy - I finally got all the things fixed. That weird extension was fixed by shrinking the top table (that the logo is in) by 20 pixels - go figure - I also dropped it down as you suggested. All images have alt tags now... I think it actually looks <almost> identical in NN now! Imagine that! (But of course it looks better in IE - everything does!) Thanks again!
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davebukouricz
Posts: 300 From: Ma None Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/17/2001 19:36:00
You know this site is good fodder for a topic of conversation that I've been fighting with for several weeks now; You have a very nice site don't get me wrong, but it is admittedly pretty sparse in terms of hard content, which leads me to " how much is too much or too little content?" I work mainly on an intranet environment and my philosophy has been, and continues to be; When you hit the home page you should be no more than one click away from what you need. As follows with this though is a portal that gets pretty full in a hurry. So which is better?
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Goober
Posts: 1156 From: Pennsylvania USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/17/2001 20:28:00
That's a good subject, Dave. I think it depends on what kind of site it is. If it's a business site, I would hope you'd be no more than two clicks away. People want in and they want info...quick and easy. I can see others, such as educational, retail (possibly with pop-ups), or entertainment (Yahoo games) that could go three clicks. The nav system would have to be very well thought-out. To be a visitor-friendly site it has to be a no-brainer to find one's way around. Just two major levels is more than some can handle well. Sandy ------------------ Stu Reilly Design Allegheny Web Dreamweaver Sites
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miker
Posts: 137 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/18/2001 20:02:00
Can the flash intro. They at best irritate people.Just think if you had to turn one off every time you went to Yahoo, Goolge, MSN, Excite, CNN etc. Go to the top 100 web sites and you might find 1 flash intro. Telling...I believe. Mike Rischard
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Gil
Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/18/2001 20:25:00
quote: Originally posted by miker: Can the flash intro. They at best irritate people.Just think if you had to turn one off every time you went to Yahoo, Goolge, MSN, Excite, CNN etc. Go to the top 100 web sites and you might find 1 flash intro. Telling...I believe. Mike Rischard
REALLY GOOD ADVICE HERE !!!!!! ------------------ Gil Harvey The Host Factory Resellers are our speciality "Indecision may or may not be my problem"
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Janney
Posts: 82 From: Ohio USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/18/2001 20:11:00
I am surprised by the negative comments regarding the Flash intros. Why does Outfront design and sell Swish is it's taboo?  ------------------ Janney
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Gil
Posts: 7533 From: North Carolina, USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/18/2001 15:17:00
quote: Originally posted by Janney: I am surprised by the negative comments regarding the Flash intros. Why does Outfront design and sell Swish is it's taboo? 
I think the "negative" comments on Flash/Swish is the use in a "Professional - Business" site. Anything goes for a "Personal" site.
------------------ Gil Harvey The Host Factory Resellers are our speciality "Indecision may or may not be my problem"
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miker
Posts: 137 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/18/2001 17:00:00
I'm not totally against Flash/Swish. I just don't like to have to click to make it go away. Same with pop-ups and pop-unders.There are a lot of good uses of Flash (see http://www.verio.com) when it is a small silent part of the page, not full-page with blaring music. Another site, which is very similar to yours, uses a Flash logo--http://www.interweb-tech.com Mike
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pcguy
Posts: 125 From: None Status: offline
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RE: New Web Site Version - 8/20/2001 20:24:00
The reason I decided to use the Flash intro is because my site IS NOT a yahoo, or lycos. If it were a page frequently visited by someone, then yes - I agree with the "NO FLASH" stance...But since most of my clients come once or twice initially to find a web designer, and often bookmark the page(s) they will return to (such as customer logon), I don't think it's a problem. My real hatred/annoyances comes with pop-ups. Especially the sites that pop things up when you try to close the windows. Just my opinion - I know some people can't stand flash, but I think the people that visit my site, and would be offended, would be minimal at best... But thanks for all the comments.
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