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tjwalker

 

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Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/5/2003 10:14:44   
I'm having trouble embedding video into my web page. I've installed win med 9 and the other plugin for FP so I can just go to insert - windows media file. Win media converts the file from avi to wmv, but when I try to test it at work (NT4) I get a message that make me try to install win media 9, which doesn't work on NT4. The original format of my video clips is .MOV (Quicktime). I purchased the upgrade and converted them to AVI and then used the Win Media 9 to covert them to wmv. I have two questions:

1. Is there a way to embed streaming video into frontpage 2k using the win media 9 plugin that won't require a viewer to my site download win media 9?

2. Is there a different way to embed streaming video into fronpage that works better than using win media 9?

Thanks!

Tony
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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/5/2003 11:41:08   
Welcome to the forums Tony!

WMV is proprietary to Windows. And then if you are using FP to insert it - you are actually making it even more proprietary. Try this code:
<object id="MediaPlayer" width=320 height=286
classid="CLSID:22D6F312-B0F6-11D0-94AB-0080C74C7E95"
standby="Loading Microsoft® Windows® Media Player components..."
type="application/x-oleobject"
codebase="http://activex.microsoft.com/activex/controls/mplayer/en/nsmp2inf.cab#Version=6,4,7,1112">
<PARAM NAME="filename" VALUE="interview_fox_video.asx">
<PARAM NAME="autoStart" VALUE="true"> <PARAM NAME="showControls" VALUE="true">
<param name="ShowStatusBar" value="true"> <PARAM NAME="Autorewind" VALUE="true">
<PARAM NAME="ShowDisplay" VALUE="false"> 
  <EMBED SRC="interview_fox_video.asx" WIDTH=320 HEIGHT=286 type="application/x-mplayer2" name=MediaPlayer autostart=1 showcontrols=0 showstatusbar=1 autorewind=1 showdisplay=0>
</EMBED></OBJECT>

Change the source (interview_fox_video.asx) in BOTH places.

Have you checked Quicktime's site on what code to use to embed the MOV file?

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tjwalker

 

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/6/2003 15:51:51   
Thanks Corey!

I put that code in my web page and it seems to act a little different than when I was using win media 9. I still have to test it at another location before I'll know if it works for sure. Thanks again.

Tony

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/6/2003 16:00:43   
Glad it helped. Let me know if you have any questions about it.

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 10:35:57   
Well, I tested it out and the streaming part of the video isn't very good. It will buffer up to 70% or so and then start going down 60%, 50% etc. down into the teens, then play a couple of seconds, then start buffering again, then play a couple of seconds, then buffer, etc... I changed the buffer amount on the server from five to ten seconds and now it will still do the odd buffering of going up then down, but now it will play for 20 seconds before buffering again. My upload speed is at least 256kb and my download where I'm testing averages well over 500kb. The server hardware is an old P Pro 200, so I'm wondering if that has anything to do with it. But, it downloads pictures very fast, so I would think it should be able to keep up with the buffer. Any thoughts?

Tony

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 10:44:36   
Check out: http://www.coreybryant.net/misc/405/
Does it do the same thing?

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tjwalker

 

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 18:23:24   
Hey Corey

Your clip worked perfectly fine. It buffered about 10% and never stopped playing. It was pretty cool, where did you get it? To see what I'm talking about go to http://www.akatony.com/crazy

Tony

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 18:27:13   
Actually I am a mirror site for the 405 Movie. So it might be your video or your server.

Did you do the videos yourself? You could make them a WMV file - that will make them smaller, but then it will only run on IE

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tjwalker

 

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 18:32:25   
They are in WMV format. I started with MOV then to AVI and then to WMV. I downloaded the free DIVX software, I am going to try that. The other thing I'm going to do is put in links to the AVI files to see if somebody can just download the entire clip, then view it.

Tony

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 18:34:05   
Actually it took about 5 minutes or so for me to load that. Did you try getting rid of all those extra params?

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 19:09:26   
Which Params should I take out?

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 19:11:32   
Try using my code. Right now - it seems you have about 50 of them on the first one that I clicked on, Bind' my Time

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 21:26:56   
I did use your code, only when I pasted it into front page is seems to have added a lot more. I'll try it using notepad and see if it works better. THanks.

Tony

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/8/2003 21:29:46   
If you are in normal mode & click on the player, it will add all those extra params.

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/10/2003 18:46:44   
Corey

I re-made all the pages, but stayed in the html tab so all those extra params wouldn't get added. It is a little better, but not much. I'm certain now it is my upload speed that is causing my problems. Thank you for your help!!

Tony

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 12/10/2003 18:48:08   
No problems - glad that I could offer something for you to compare it to at least! :)

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 4/15/2004 6:00:58   
hi guys.. i tried out the code.. THANKS! it helped out a lot.. i was wondering if there's a way to do this...

#1. If users don't want to play the video.. can I mask an image over it? (so i don't waste valuable site space)
#2. Is there a code where I can list say 5 videos and it'll play on one screen?

THanks AGAIN =D

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 10/22/2004 12:35:12   
I am also trying to get streaming video to my website. I took the code that Corey gave in an earlier post and the player shows up. What I am not sure is how to get my video clip to play in it. Do I need to upload it to a web storage site first? My clip is still in a MPEG format. Do I need to change the format or compress it some how? I am really new at this so I would appreciate any help you can give me.
Thanks,
~Serene

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RE: Embedding streaming video in FP 2K - 10/22/2004 16:07:20   
I have a sample of embedded video on a site I've just finished:

www.childseyemedia.com

It provides options for both quicktime (mpg) and windows media player (wmv). The broadband version is good but I wouldn't recommend the dialup version. I put it on because the customer wanted it but dial up and video don't mix very well in my humble opinion.

The video was converted and compressed using sorenson squeeze:

http://www.sorenson.com/solutions/prod/comp_win.php

Its quite expensive but does a good job.

Perhaps the most exciting new viewer is the Flash video player. It works with all version from Flash 6 upwards (according to macromedia this represents over 90% of PC's) maybe slightly exagerrated but Flash is at least as common as anything else.

The downside is you need FlashMX 2004 to create it BUT - good old swish have come out with a cheaper version already.

FlashVideo comes with a version sorenson squeeze. If you want to do video properly you need the right tools. I'm sure you'll find cheaper software (maybe even some free) to convert your videos if you dig around on google.

Nigel

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