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wright1533

 

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ghost tables. Just handles, no borders - 1/7/2004 10:35:46   
Help.

I've got handles on my web page with no table. Just the handles appear, and although my page looks fine in the local version, when I publish big spaces appear, or else thing are on top of each other. I know it's the handles that do it. If I fool with them I can change things, but they're very unprdictable, and I can't seem to get my web page to look like the local version. Youcan see the problem here:

http://www.classicalliance.net

I'm not very savvy about code. Is there something I can take out that will remove these ghost tables?

I have a suspiciion that they appear when I copy and past text. Could this be the problem?

Lynn
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RE: ghost tables. Just handles, no borders - 1/7/2004 16:58:45   
Are you referring to the borders? Change the border type to solid and change the color?

I'm not sure if that's what you're talking about, though.

If you want to try copying and pasting, do it one table at a time.

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RE: ghost tables. Just handles, no borders - 1/8/2004 10:14:47   
I'm not sure what you're referring to either, but if you think it's coming from copy/paste then copy/paste into notepad/copy from notepad/paste to fp. It only takes a moment and notepad will strip any coding off it that might be causing problems.

Linda

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RE: ghost tables. Just handles, no borders - 1/8/2004 13:45:51   
Lynn,

Short answer: You have <DIV> </DIV> tags with width parameters surrounding most of the items on that page. That is creating the appearance in FrontPage's "Normal" mode of invisible boxes that you can narrow or expand. This is normal. There is no problem with it.

Actually, it's a fairly good coding technique, and can help you if you move toward using CSS someday, so I wouldn't get rid of them.

Troubleshooting for the future:
1. When all else fails, try Linda's technique.
2. In a case like this, one thing you might try is to go into "Normal" mode in FrontPage, and modify the thing wildly, and then go into "HTML" mode and search for the odd parameter. In other words, click and drag the "ghost handles" and widen them extremely wide. Then go into HTML mode and do a Find (Ctrl-F) for width and look for something very wide. Fortunately the widths on the DIV codes were specified in pixels, and not percentages.

Hope that helps! :)

< Message edited by ApexWeb -- 1/8/2004 13:47:12 >


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RE: ghost tables. Just handles, no borders - 1/8/2004 15:31:19   
Hi :)

Try changeing your table border <table border="5" change to a 1 and then try 2 and so on untill you get the border you want.:)

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RE: ghost tables. Just handles, no borders - 1/10/2004 8:33:58   
Thank you, thank you. <div> was the problem, I'm very grateful!!

Lynn

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