Thanks ahead for the help!

http://www.scouters.org

I think it would look nicer if you set all your margins to zero. You can do this by adding this inside the opening body tag: topmargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0" bottommargin="0" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0"

You are using an off standard font which I actually don't think renders at all well on screen - it looks blotchy. Try it with either Ariel or Verdana and I believe it will look a lot clearer.

Your header gif is very large. I would try to do something to make it a bit smaller.

You are using a lot of FP styles - eg you are defining margin height and width for paragraphs and it seems you are defining them as zero which is the default anyway so it is having no effect other than to bloat your code.

There are some problems in Netscape - for example your bullets between the top nav elements are showing up as the code rather than as bullets. You need to use the ascii code rather that & followed by 'bull' - I cannot remeber what it is right now but will look for it. Also there is some overlapping which I think may be due to your use fo the FP styles which generally fare badly in NN.

You have great content and are providing a lot of resources so I am not surprised the site is doing well. Good luck with it.

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Thanks again!

The paragraph styles are there in your code.

For example;
<p style="line-height: 100%; margin-top: 0; margin-bottom: 0">

Zero margins and 100% line height are the default - so what you have is the same as this:

<p>

You can see how repeating this again and again for each paragrpah would cause a lot of bloating.

Possible solutions:
1. Did you apply your theme using style sheets? If so do Format>Theme and alter it so that you are applying it without style sheets and this may get rid of it all.

2. Did you copy stuff in from somewhere else or save the page in something other than FP? If so then it is best to copy into notepad first and then into FP and reformat the content there.

3. Is this FP98? I never used FP98 but I believe it used to put all sorts of stuff in your code, perhaps this is the sort of thing people mean.

4. Did you apply any kind of an FP generated style to anything? If so get rid of it.

5. If all else fails go into the HTML and get rid of it manually.

The bullet thing I really think must be from copying in a bullet from somewhere else since I cannot replicate it in FP. Where it occures in in your top nav bar where you have:

Home <bullet> Web Space Signup <bullet> etc.

Another thing that occurs to me but I did not mention the last time is that you are using the space bar here and there to position things - this is another thing that can cause you site to look strange at different resolutions/screen sizes etc. Look in your code for &-nbsp-; - with out the hyphens, I put them in so that a spce would not appear here. That is HTMLese for a space created by the spacebar. Tp get rid of them I would go to HTML view, right click, choose replace and replace that code with nothing.

Hope that makes it a bit clearer.

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Katherine

InKK Design
LinKKs - Kilkenny's Online Magazine

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"Dogs have owners, cats have staff!"

In NN 4.7, they are overlapping "Check this out...." When I scroll down the page then back up, that whole line of navigation disappears. In fact, it seems to happen on every page.

On this page some things were overlapping and it appeared that the whole page did not load: http://www.scouters.org/scouters/cnclact.htm

When I scroll all the way down this page, some of the content is being cut off: http://www.scouters.org/Programs/programs.htm This seems to be a common problem throughout the site.

I would suggest downloading a copy of NN 4.7 so you can do some testing.

I'm just curious...aqua and lavender don't strike me as Boy Scout colors. Was there some special reason for using them?

Best wishes,
Sandy

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[This message has been edited by Goober (edited 10-13-2001).]

Katherine, I think I know where all that "margin 0" stuff came from, but not sure. (FYI, I am using FP 2002, but originially started this with FP 2000.) I was trying to get my text lines, lines to graphics, graphics to graphics, to get right close together. There was an extra space between each, and it took too much room. They way I found to fix it was to select the line(s) of text or graphics, choose "format", "paragraph", and then change the spacing before and after to "0". (There is nothing in those filed by default.) When I did that, the lines came together. Would that have added that code in there?

Sandy, you gave me a lot to think about! I have not done anything to ensure compatability with NN. I should have known better. I will work on it. Some of the problems may be due to another issue I found. I posted the issue but did not really get an answer. Someone helped me to start down the right path and I figured it out. I am not sure if this is related or not.

I am publishing to a UNIX server w/o FP extensions. (FTP). It appears like FP likes to mix up the use of case in the "_derived" directory for buttons. Sometimes it uses caps, other times it does not. For a NT/2000 server, this is not a bad thing, NT/2000 don't care about case. UNIX does, and so it could not find some of the files. Once I put copies of the files with all small letters the graphics on the buttons worked fine. (Still can't find a MS knowlege base issue on this). Could that be causing some of the problems?

Oh, and the colors. Well, the Boy Scout colors are green, (kind of kahky(sp?)) and red. The Cub Scout colors are blue and yellow. Neither work very well for a web page, so I choose my own.

Anyway, thanks again to you both! I will be working to implement your ideas.

[This message has been edited by robcool (edited 10-13-2001).]

Instead of &bull, it would be a good idea to insert a small graphic, tilde ~ , hyphen...something NN could read.

Sandy

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