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I can't save site.css - 1/22/2004 17:46:45
Ok, I'm using FP2000, and going through the tutorial lesson of using css sheets.
On part 3, #2, the instruction is to paste the style sheet below and save as site.css
Therein lies my problem. Everytime I go to save it, I get a frontpage error message that says frontpage encountered a problem and needs to close.
What am I doing wrong. I copied from notepad. Is file name suppose to be site.css, and then what is the file type??? Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is the instruction
1. Create a new web in FP. When it is open click File>New Page. Choose the 'Style Sheets' tab and then choose 'Normal Style Sheet'.
2.Paste the style sheet below into that page and save the file as 'site.css'.
P {font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: normal; color: blue;}
H1 {font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: green;}
H2 {font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: red;}
H3 {font-family: Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-weight: bold; color: #CC0099;}
A:link {text-decoration: underline; color: #ff3399;}
A:hover {text-decoration: none; color: #990000;}
A:visited {text-decoration: underline; color: #3399FF;}
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/22/2004 18:19:41
Hi Sid, I dont do my css in front page, I hand code both pages and css pages myself. Thoug I'll need to learn how to do this in fp once I know the code.
Anyhow, your code looks fine, and the way that you are saving the file sounds correct. A css gets saved as you have it.
site.css
is correct.
I'm sure that someone who is more familar with this might be able to help you.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/22/2004 18:54:24
I used the same version as you mentioned (FP 2000) and had no problems. I could follow the steps ok.
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get a frontpage error message that says frontpage encountered a problem and needs to close.
Whenever I get this message I do a close out of FP and restart my computer. That usually fixes it.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/22/2004 19:57:53
I shut down computer and restarted twice. I still can't save the page and the same message comes up that FP has encountered a problem and then it shuts down. (FP, not the computer).
I just saw the post below me, wow , I guess I'm in for a long haul!!!!!!!
Anyway, I will be as detailed as possible.
A) I created a new web
B) I went to file, new page and chose style sheets,and then normal style sheet.
C) I pasted the code in notepad and then copied and pasted on this new page.
D) On the new page, I have that small box that says style in the middle of it. Am I suppose to do something with that? I just left it.
E) I go to save and next to file name I type site.css I also tried just typing site, but that didn't work either. The file type I left alone which reads Hypertext Style Sheet
F) I also went to page options and went to compatibility and under technology they are all checked except Javascript.
Thanks for your help in advance!
Sid
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/22/2004 22:00:14
I've read about everything I can find under help in FP in regards to css.
My best guess is I have some settings wrong to be able to do this.
Help mentions that I may need to enable or desable specific versions of css under tools/page options/compatiblility. What should I do when I'm there?
Help also says to type in proper css syntax. What's this and how do I know if I am? How about that little style box that appears when I first click a new page?
What's that for?
I do know this much. I can save a blank page as css. But when I paste the code on the page and then try to save it is when the error message pops up and then automatically closes FP. That's why I'm thinking my settings are wrong somewhere. Can the style of the text be it??
Thanks Again!
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/23/2004 3:36:36
Copy the code over into Notepad, and save it into the web directory. That should do it
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/23/2004 10:16:06
Well here is how I did it. I opened up frontpage, and you know how it always opens with a new page. I pasted the code there and then saved it as a hypertext style sheet. I then went to the web I created for this tutorial and inserted that file into a new page (the new htm page that pops up when you open the web and then saved it as a hypertextstyle sheet).
It is saved now a a css file!
Am I going to have problems because I inserted it into a htm page and then saved it as a css??
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/23/2004 16:05:49
Here I go again. The very next step said to do this.
Now insert the following into the <head></head> section of a normal page in an FP site.
<LINK REL=STYLESHEET TYPE="text/css" HREF="site.css">
This is the method used to link a HTML file to a style sheet.
OK, I did this, but when I went back to view in html, it does not stay between head><head. It automatically moves to between body><body.
So of course it doesn't work for me, as my headings stay black, when they are suppose to black, red and green.
Anyway, its obviouse I'm having way to much trouble with this. My questions is when I upgrade to FP2003 next week, will that help much?
Is css any easier with FP2003??
Thanks
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/24/2004 9:07:18
When you save the style sheet, if you've already opened a "Style Sheet" template, then try just putting "site" in the file name area when you save it. FP may already know it's a css file, and by your typing "site.css" in it, FP could be trying to save it as "site.css.css" and maybe that's what's flipping it out. Just type "site" and save it, see what happens.
I use FP2002.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 1/24/2004 9:58:58
No, that's not the problem. You are right though, you only need to type site, and FP saves is as site.css. I am upgrading to FP2003 shortly and I'll see then if I have the same problem.
Thanks for all your help!
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/3/2004 15:46:40
It's not you. I have exactly the same problem. Worked for a while and then just refused to save. If I take the same style sheet into work and load it there, I can save it for the first couple of attempts and then that stops as well.
I now avoid Frontpage like the plague when doing CSS. I've got Cascade for doing basic layout. Do I love that little freebie or do I love that little freebie! It makes first draft so easy then I just add the rest of the code in notepad.
I'm just finishing off a site for a client which is my first full CSS site. Only a small site but am I a happy bunny or what!
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/5/2004 14:19:30
Don't use frontpage2000 or indeed any version of frontpage for doing your css. Create your css using something else. Save it in a seperate folder in your web. Then link to it.
Don't use the fronpage stylesheet linker either. Go here:
http://www.jimcoaddins.com/
and download a copy of their free style sheet linker.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/5/2004 17:27:02
fiachra,
I created my style sheet in style assistant, but pull it up and edit it in front page. Is that going to create a problem? I don't use the front page style editor, I just open it and change whatever I need to, then save.
edit - I did use the jimco add-in to link the style sheet. I'd read here not to use the front page one.
Am I screwing up royally?
Gayle
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/5/2004 18:58:29
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ORIGINAL: womynaloud
fiachra,
I created my style sheet in style assistant, but pull it up and edit it in front page. Is that going to create a problem? I don't use the front page style editor, I just open it and change whatever I need to, then save.
edit - I did use the jimco add-in to link the style sheet. I'd read here not to use the front page one.
Am I screwing up royally?
Gayle
Style assistant is a great piece of software (hope you downloaded the update too.) If not toddle over there and get it. It's well and truly "gorilla endorsed" and as its free probably your bank balance likes it too!
http://www.styleassistant.de/download.htm
The jimco style sheet linker is a hell of a lot more robust than the frontpage one (which can give endless problems.)
So no problems there.
You could very well have problems editing your stylesheets in frontpage though. The consensus seems to be that it just doesn't "play nice" with them. Extraneous character codes, sometimes corrupted files, or frontpage just keeling over.
IMO avoid anything to do with css coding in frontpage. The gorilla group recommend windows users to create it in whatever and to edit it a plain text editor such as notepad or notetab.
www.notetab.com
Hope this helps. - Off to bed as I travel tomorrow.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/10/2004 2:18:27
Thanks Fiachra for the link to Notetab.
I checked it out - and promptly bought the pro version. I love the outline feature as well as all the libraries.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/10/2004 3:55:48
Can I just get one thing clear here:
When writing CSS, use Fiachra advice, and don't use FP. Also I might add, FP2000 isn't fully complient with CSS, if you want to work with CSS and FP, move to FP2002/3, they handle it better. Or if you want superb handling of it, use DWMX2004. But if using CSS with FP, first write it in Notetab, or Notepad.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/16/2004 3:59:48
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1. Please expand what exactly do you mean by FP2000 not being compliant with css - compliance referes to UAs mostly browsers.
What I mean by this is:
I myself now and then use FP2000. It was released before CSS was starting to be integrated into the Web Design tools, therefore, not fully supporting all forms of coding. It will take the CSS file, however, all CSS implementation has to be done manually, and it doesn't always work. Also I might add, FP 2000 does not handle div layers too well, it tenda to throw about at it's own leisure.
The CSS and FP2000 matter should really be solved by Microsoft, but, they claim that FP2003 is fully "CSS enabled", and that you should upgrade to it. If wanting to use CSS and FP2000, learn CSS first, that way, the hard part is transfering the web document over to CSS.
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2. In what way do you mean this? Like the ghost in Hamlet "I could a tale unfold."
Not quite, FP2000 and CSS is more like the almighty speach from Hemlet himself in the play:
To CSS, Or Not To CSS? That is The question, whether tis nobler in the mind to code......(yada yada blah blah)
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/16/2004 11:42:45
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ORIGINAL: gorilla
BTW the piece of software that Jaybee is talking about is I believe "Balthisar Cascade" This is a very good freeby indeed. It also includes aural settings btw and I regularly make use of that feature.
http://www.balthisar.com
Actually, the Cascade I was talking about is another freebie at www.price-media.demon.co.uk. But I'm now comparing the two. Thanks for the tip off.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/17/2004 6:49:03
I also could not understand the German. Sent a quick e-mail to see if the Readme and instructions could be translated into English. Have not heard back anything yet. Since I am new at CSS I need a little more information.
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RE: I can't save site.css - 2/18/2004 6:34:25
with your words of confidence I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
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