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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 2/16/2004 14:45:25
All I can say is...wow!
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 11/3/2004 15:57:06
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It does work I tested it and used
http://willmaster.com/possibilities/demo/RetrieveEmails.cgi
to check it.
Tina: Your script finds 2 address on my site www.searoom.com - one that I know about and which doesn't matter, but the other is my own address which does bother me. I had it coded JS but removed that after reading your accessibility comments, and changed it to the <code></code> example. Your script still finds my own address - I've searched high and low and can't find another instance .... would be great if your script showed the actual URL of the address occurence.
(Stockport, eh? I spent my first 22 years in Sale, Cheshire)
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 11/3/2004 16:16:59
Neat trick. There is also a nice way to defeat spammers' bots and spiders : you convert the "mailto:etc..." address to Unicode. Of course, it won't last, but it seems rather good for the time being.
http://www.pinnacledisplays.com/unicode-converter.htm is hosting the necessary tool
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 11/6/2004 11:21:24
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ORIGINAL: tinaalice
It does work I tested it and used
http://willmaster.com/possibilities/demo/RetrieveEmails.cgi
to check it.
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Tina
I don't know how to delete posts, so I am inserting an "Oh, never mind..." I see that willmaster looks for addresses in the html.
I still would like to know if using * on domain names is a bad idea
How do you use willmaster? I typed in my url, and it said no email addresses were found. However, I regularly get spam addressed to sales@myhomeschooling.net and that site isn't even active!
Of course, I have set up the domain name so that i can use anything as an email. Does that invite more spammers, or does it not matter?
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 11/7/2004 3:10:03
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ORIGINAL: tinaalice
Is your whois blocked for the domain blocked? That's once source, Because your email is not on your site that just means that is one source it can't be found. You could have used it on a list a forum signed up for nl's and a dozen other things. Yes using catchall gives you more spam.
"Using *" ... sorry I don't understand?
Tina
At registersite.com, when setting up email, you have the option to forward all email to a specific mail server. their notation is*@yourdomain.com
Thanks for the willmaster info.
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CapnCook
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 11/17/2004 15:56:43
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Here is one addy.
Here is the other.
<deleted>
Which has the kind of code I talk about in my article which WON'T work.
Darned if I can find that instance - FP's search tool can't locate it, Google can't locate it either. Can you tell me which page you find it on?
< Message edited by CapnCook -- 11/17/2004 17:04:33 >
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CapnCook
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 11/17/2004 17:31:15
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That's why you have the two emails still coming up one is in the favourites code and the other is as above... remember you don't have to see it on the page ... the bots can see it in the html it's coming up because the encoded bit @ can be seen by search bots.
Tina: I removed all relevant code on the <contact.htm> page, which is where I presume you found the address. I also found another instance where I had used the ascii code on another page - removed that. I have substituted a form using NateMail.php which does not reveal the address. Having uploaded the new pages, I still find your form reports the same two email addresses and I just cannot find where you are finding the skipper address (the other one I don't care about).
I edited my messages above to remove the skipper email address - I'd appreciate it if you would do the same in your replies, as I discovered Google can see those addresses in clear, so the robots also must see them.
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 12/6/2004 20:04:56
Hi,
Yes, the text is backwards on my test page in the design view and so is the html, but I see that the actual <a href="mailto:email address"> is not backwards in the html. Does this matter? Will the email harvesters pass over this and not pick it up? Have I done something wrong? Am I even supposed to be hyperlinking to a live email address?
Thank you
Brian
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ou812
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 12/6/2004 21:45:32
Brian,
My understanding, and how I've done it with success, is that you should not have the email link. I used the backwards CSS for a display ONLY of my email address and then have made a contact page (and linked to it with at different places in my site) if they wish to not send via their own email.
The harvesters will pick up the <a href="mailto:email address"> so best not to have them in there at all
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 5/29/2005 4:11:02
Ah, brining up a pretty old thread here, again. How would this be useful if you want to have your e-mail address an actual link? It doesn't seem like this method would work.
I have been using javascript for the longest time to hide my address, I noticed very little spam too- so I know it works. Pretty soon I bet spam bots will learn the trick of using unicode.
I guess I will just stick to using javascript for now, but it sure would be nice to have a better solution.
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RE: You can use css to help defeat spam harvester botsbots - 5/29/2005 12:45:09
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How would this be useful if you want to have your e-mail address an actual link? It doesn't seem like this method would work.
Correct Mr. Bob, you can't have it as an actual email link. I use this method for having my email address redirect to a contact page. So, they can fill out the contact page, or manually type in the email address into their email program.
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