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At the Risk.... - 3/3/2004 14:19:30
...of angering my CSS Purist friends, I have submitted this revamp for review. Personally, I am not happy with it, but maybe it's just me. I did it the way the person wanted it...and it does look tons better than the old site (also designed by me, back when I didn't even know what CSS was)
I realize that something is missing from the front page- a description of the property! LOL I accidentally deleted it and am waiting for the realtor to give me the information again. <sigh> There will be more information on there and will narrow that empty gap on the lower right quite a bit.
I was hoping to have this be mostly a CSS layout with tables only for the real estate homes listings, but I could not make it work and I am under a tight schedule right now. SO-- no "Why don't you use CSS for layout?" Okay? LOL
http://www.lakewallenpaupackproperties.com
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/3/2004 15:03:51
Very nice. First of all I'm partial to that shade of blue so I get a warm and fuzzy when I see that mixed in with the other colors that compliment it. I'm a minimalist when it comes to getting that type of info, and you are very effective in giving me what I want.
Great job on that photo. I need to get as skilled as that with PSP.
Two things that I question.
The Consumer Notice - the white text on the blue blackground - to me was hard to read. A lot there, sounds like important stuff and I'd before more comfortable reading that on a traditional white background/black text, framed in your blue.
And secondly - this isn't necessarily for your site alone, because I see it a lot - and that's the box with your name and the W3 CSS stuff in it. Seems too large to be taking up a clients site with promotion about you. And why do designers even put that on web sites? It seems too self serving. If your good, people will find you. But I'm sure that's a whole other topic.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/3/2004 15:20:34
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And secondly - this isn't necessarily for your site alone, because I see it a lot - and that's the box with your name and the W3 CSS stuff in it. Seems too large to be taking up a clients site with promotion about you. And why do designers even put that on web sites? It seems too self serving. If your good, people will find you. But I'm sure that's a whole other topic.
I think you're right. I put it on there because I just wanted to show that the page validates...but in reality, the general public isn't going to care. So I'm going to take that off and just leave my name linked there...the realtor said that she wasn't too crazy about it being on there either.
I did it the lazy way for the Consumer Notice. It's one of those things that HAS to be on every real estate site, and I know I'd just take one look at the length of it and not read it, as a consumer. LOL So I didn't worry about the white on blue, but perhaps I should change it.
Thanks for the kind words! My favorite part of web design is playing with PSP.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/3/2004 16:00:50
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Some of us (said the gorilla grinning broadly) put it in a separate page with a link called "Colophon." Why? Because most people don't know what on earth a colophon is and click it to find out. That's why.
ROTFLMBO. I love it!!!!
Thanks for the compliments. No, I hadn't used a color schemer - the original site was mostly the same colors and she wanted to keep it that way. I may play around with the hover color for the text links, though, not sure I like that. I picked the original colors from a photo of the lake (or maybe it was a river) that I had.
I just got some more feedback from her, so I had to change some things. She doesn't like the reddish brown div, though I love it because it's different and catches your eye, but yet, not obnoxious. Different graphic for the restaurant now. I guess it's okay. Seems to jump out at you whereas the other one gently said "look at me..."
Maybe I need a nap, I'm starting to sound silly. LOL
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/3/2004 16:25:14
I'll just post it here in case anyone else is interested....
First, I scanned it at 200% (I would have done 300% but the texture really showed up then, even at low res) then zeroed in on the part I wanted - the lake, and cut it out from the scan. Then I messed around with the contrast and color balance, flood filled the sky with a gradient so that it looked more blue instead of white; got it to where it looked decent.
then, I copied it, pasted as a new image. then I did a mirror on the new image. Then, I made a huge new image with the blue background, pasted both pictures togther on it, lining them up so that it looked good (even if the top or bottom edges were crooked.) Then I used my clone brush to mess around with the trees so that both sides didn't look exactly the same; used the soften brush on the horizon in the middle where it was obviously pasted together....merged all layers, and then, using the rectangle selection, trimmed it so that the whole thing looked even.
Of course, I saved it periodically here and there so I wouldn't lose it (NOT!! I was lucky....).
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/3/2004 17:39:25
I remember the old site and like this one much better. I like the blue.
I started to rant about CSS fanatics, extremism and elitism but had second thoughts decided to delete it.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/4/2004 17:05:18
thanks gorilla - I emptied out my inbox so it's not full anymore. lol
i know what you mean about the colors. I have one site that I did that my client loves but I hate it - she really wanted this bright royal blue (think the windows standard blue hyperlink color) as the background, with lots of white, neon green, and bright yellow. I tried to convince her to use a color scheme similar to this one but she didn't like it. I actually squint when the page comes up, but hey, the paying customer gets what she wants. LOL
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 14:12:02
Nice job overall on the site. the one thing that i saw was when the site opened in a resized window (from full screen), your navigation buttons disappeared behind the pic below. Otherwise, nice job.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 14:25:29
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Is there a logo to come, or a reason for so much blank blue space at the top?
Hmmm...there shouldn't be a blank blue space at the top; there should be a picture of the realtor and the lake, with the office name address.
Yeah, the buttons do need to be redone. They didn't resize well at all; I just wanted to make them smaller by 1px x 1px, and that totally ruined them...
Thanks for your comments....the site is still a WIP as the realtor wants some things changed too.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 14:27:04
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Nice job overall on the site. the one thing that i saw was when the site opened in a resized window (from full screen), your navigation buttons disappeared behind the pic below.
that should be taken care of when I make new, smaller buttons. I really dislike using buttons; I'd much rather go with a CSS Nav. bar, but the realtor really wants buttons.
Thanks!!
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 16:51:18
That is really weird. Do you see anything in this code that would make it now show the image?? It's just a normal, run of the mill jpeg. Is it missing from all the pages or just the main one?
<table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="3" style="width: 100%;">
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<td style="background-color: #4e63ac; vertical-align: top; width: 30%; left: 10%; text-align: center;" colspan="2" height="137"><div id="headerright">
<span class="two" style="font-size: 1em;">...Serving the Lake Wallenpaupack region since 1973...</span><br>
<img src="images/graphics/banner2.jpg" width="747" height="127"></div>
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Here is the CSS for the div:
#headerright
{
Background-Color: #4e63ac;
position: relative;
float: left;
Width: 98%;
height: 110px;
}
PS...I think I fixed the problem with teh About the Area page. For some bizarre reason, there was a </form> tag on there, but there never was a form on that page or on the original page. I also made the list of links a bulleted list rather than centered text. Why didn't I think of doing that before? LOL
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:11:01
... within the root of your images folder, when I click on graphics, then banner2.gif, I get nothing. Just a blank page...
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:18:08
I don't keep a cache.... I need fresh copies ALL the time. As a developer that is important - yanno.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:21:31
... further, and more importantly, If "I" cannot see it (peekaboo bug issues) then what about the other site visitors.
It is important that they see it no matter what browser they are using.
... and since the preinstalled IE IS still in fact the most used (unless you are a dev, or smart, LOL) then would all visitors NOT have this issue?
To me, making sure it is seen by all is more important then the use of CSS.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:24:19
ugh, other people using WHAT browser??
If they are using Avant or IE, wouldn't they have the same problem....
you know what, I was ONLY trying to help.
so, you win.
It is me, because of my browser ---- so all IE users will see nothing. A good reason IMPO to change it.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:34:13
I found something interesting when googling for "peekaboo bug".
It seems that if the container that holds the float* is given an assigned 'line-height' (any assigned line-height) the bug vanishes.
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:35:38
I see it fine with IE, and so did the realtor and her brother, using IE 5 and 6 - and others who I know have been using IE have seen it.
but I did have an issue once before with a jpeg that woudln't show up for ME with IE 6, but everyone here saw it, and everyone I sent the page to saw it...but for the life of me I could not get that one image to load. I ended up just trashing the site anyway as I had no time to pursue it (it was a personal site of mine)
I find this a most annoying bug! (along with everyone else in the world, lol)
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:38:29
The div does have a line height set to it. and so does the table cell.
or is it looking for something different than "height: 118px"?
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RE: At the Risk.... - 3/12/2004 17:39:21
I just (for the heck of it) checked it in all other browsers I have here, and In my IE it does show.
Just not Avant.
... if the line hight is set, and you are happy the way it is - cool.
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