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Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/8/2004 11:39:50   
Someone please help, as I am quickly going out of my mind.

I have inherited web duties from another webmaster before me. I have a link to a regular index page, which when I click on it, brings up a login prompt for a username password. When I go to look at the permissions for the subweb, it turns out that the subweb is not a subweb at all, but an ordinary folder!!!

Let me give an example:

I can access :
http://my.company.com/mysubweb <---This page pulls up fine.

But when I click on the link to
http://my.company.com/mysubweb/folder1 <--- This brings up a login prompt.

But folder1 is not a subweb, so I don't know where these permissions are being set. Is this some sort of OS level protection???

Any help or advice would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!!!
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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/8/2004 13:01:44   
It could be a permission on the web server for that directory...

Have you tried using the same login info that you would use to Publish the site?

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/8/2004 13:14:39   
Bobby - I've checked the permissions on that folder through Windows Explorer. I have given my own ID Full Control privileges. I have tried using my own login information along with using the "Administrator" userID and password.

Nothing works. Am I checking the folder permissions correctly???

Thanks

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 4:07:37   
quote:

I can access :
http://my.company.com/mysubweb <---This page pulls up fine.

quote:

But when I click on the link to
http://my.company.com/mysubweb/folder1 <--- This brings up a login prompt.

folder1 is a sub directory to mysubweb, and somewhere permission have been set on it through FP. Setting them through Windows won't do much, thats windows explorer based access only, FP uses a different set of access information and rights. Have you tried accessing a file within the sub-folder directly?

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 9:19:27   
Giomanach - Thanks for the reply, but it still doesn't work. When I try and directly access a file

i.e. http://my.company.com/mysubweb/folder1/graphics/default.jpg

it still gives me the username/password prompt.

Here's another very bizarre thing which I just noticed. When I try and access the link

http://my.company.com/mysubweb/folder1 the prompt that comes back says
"Please enter username and password for 'Netwrok Group Secured Page' at my.company.com"

Notice how the "R" and the "O" in the word Network are transposed. Very weird...

This "Netwrok Group Secured Page" shows up under the "realm" heading on the login prompt in IE.

Any more ideas????

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 9:27:27   
Login with your network user name and password???? But I would leave that as a last resort. (((Stupid question))) Have you had any viruses recently?? And does anyone but you work on this particular web?? Firewall? How up-to-date?

They seem like stupid questions to me, but they may hold the answer

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 9:37:37   
It's not asking me to log in with my network username/pwd, the subweb in question is for our Network Group.

No viruses. I'm the only one who works on this particular web, but I inherited it from another guy, so I've only been working on it for a few months. All of this is done within a corporate firewall, so no external access is required.

I have another (completely different from the above example) subweb which I needed to give a user access rights to. I added them into the access list by going to Tools->Server->Permissions and added their userID to the access list. Now I tried to login using that ID and it doesn't allow access. In the Permissions popup, when I go under users, the "Valid username and password required to browse this web" is not even checked!!! So why is it not allowing browse access??? It seems like this validation is coming from somewhere else, because the userID/password I just set up doesn't even work!!

This is getting so frustrating!!! :)

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 9:52:01   
Here's another one...

When I open my web in Frontpage, I get the standard...

Enter Network Password

Site: my.company.com
User Name: ___________
Password: ____________
Domain: ____________

Here I type in Administrator for the userID and then the administrator password (I leave domain blank).

Then when I click on the subweb, mysubweb, I get ANOTHER login box. This one says:

Enter Network Password

Please type your username and password.

Site: my.company.com
Realm: mysubweb Secured Page
User Name: ________________
Password: _________________

No matter what I type in here (even the Administrator userID/password), the login box pops up again. It pops up three times, and then lets me in, even if I type the same thing three times, or three different IDs/passwords.

I don't know if this is making ANY sense, but I'm explaining it the best I can. I'm also sorry to flood you with info, but I figure the more situations I describe, the better chance I have of it ringing a bell with someone....

Thanks again!!!

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 11:19:59   
Have you tried contacting the hosting company?

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 12:22:58   
Are we on Windows or Linux? (suspect windows)

Are you working on a developement or production server?

If any files within the subweb (that's not a subweb) have had access permissions set-up then the pages and folders that contain them will prompt for authentication. The netwrok thing is just a typo by the network administrator.

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 13:33:54   
Bobby - This is my company intranet, whose responsibilities I inherited, so my company is the hosting company... :)

ellipisces - Windows 2000, this is a production server. Do you mean if any of the files have had access permissions set-up within NTFS?? Also, the netwrok login prompt comes when I try to access a folder within one of my subwebs. But the subweb is not password protected. Where would a network administrator specify the verbiage for a login prompt for one of my intranet folders???

I've been googling myself to death here. Does anyone think it could have something to do with NTFS file permissions???

Thanks again guys for all the ideas!

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 13:56:50   
quote:

Where would a network administrator specify the verbiage for a login prompt for one of my intranet folders
they don't. It automatically pops up as a function of the webserver

quote:

Does anyone think it could have something to do with NTFS file permissions???
Most likely. Have you tried this? Change the permissions on the "subweb". When it asks about applying the change to just this folder, or all folders and files (inherit) specify "yes, apply the change to all files and folders contained in the subweb or folder.

quote:

Also, the netwrok login prompt comes when I try to access a folder within one of my subwebs
is this one the same as you mentioned in the initial posting?

quote:

But the subweb is not password protected
I'm still unclear as to whether this is a real subweb or just a folder.

And finally, has the server administrator changed any of the authentication settings???

wish I could be more helpful, it's stuff like this that made me dump windows servers.

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 14:15:06   
ellipisces - I have two problems, but I think that they're related, so sorry for the confusion.

1. I have a subweb, which when I try to access it, it prompts me for a username/password. I have added my own ID to the access list through Tools->Server->permissions, but it still will not let me into the webpage. I know my password is correct, because I use it on other subwebs. This leads me to believe that the login is authenticating against something else.

2. I have a folder within a different subweb. I can access the subweb without a password. When I click a link which accesses a normal folder within that subweb, I get a login prompt.

I know I've seen the inheriting box before, but I can't remember where. I can't find it on the permissions window within Frontpage. Are you talking about modifying the NTFS file permissions???

Thanks again!

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 16:24:09   
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I have added my own ID to the access list through Tools->Server->permissions
You did this in the main web? You need to be in the subweb to create permissions for the web. I know, catch-22. If the admin password (subweb) was changed and you don't know what it is, then you could be out of luck.


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quote:

Are you talking about modifying the NTFS file permissions???
normally you won't set the permissions using NTFS. However, in this case you might give it a try.

Are you using subwebs so that others can securely author to the website? It almost seems like somebody copied, not published a file that they owned/created to the subweb.

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 16:32:30   
Man, I guess I should've started at the beginning... It seems like I'm telling the story backwards.

I received a request to add user access to a subweb. We have several subwebs on our corporate intranet to allow different users to author different sections of the intranet. I had never been into this particular subweb before, so when I tried to open it, the administrator userID/password didn't work. I called the main developer for that subweb, and grabbed her userIDs/password which works, so I was able to add my own ID to the subweb. Then I tried to login using my ID, and it didn't work!

I tried playing around with the NTFS file permissions, to no avail. You may be right about copying a file up to the intranet, I don't know. I'm thinking about creating another subweb to mirror the one I'm having problems with, and then copying the files from one to the other. That's the only thing I can think of that may work!!!

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/9/2004 16:52:56   
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so I was able to add my own ID to the subweb. Then I tried to login using my ID, and it didn't work
this should have worked. :) I have had username/password combo's not work before. Have you tried (yet) another one, that is super-easy?

Actually I was going to suggest trying another subweb, but it just seemed a little drastic. As always, make backups before doing any tricky manuevers!

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/10/2004 8:00:26   
Oh, and one other thought, since you have access to the server...

what do the server logs say???:)

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/10/2004 8:25:18   
Aaahhhh...the ever-elusive Server Logs...

Where are these located or how do I access them?? What are they called? I've asked these questions before, but no one could answer me.

Thanks

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/11/2004 3:45:06   
Somewhere in the Management console, don't know where, but their in there somewhere

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/11/2004 8:39:50   
Bobby/ellipisces/Giomanach,

First of all let me thank you for all your help. It's nice to know that there are people out there who will take time out of their schedules to help others. After finding this website, I hope that I can help others the way you've helped me.

I've found the answer to my problems, and it was something that you guys could never have figured out. It turns out that there is a third party software running on that server called Authentix, made by a company called Flicks software. It can work in conjunction with FrontPage to protect folders/files, etc. It kinda works like the Windows authentication module where you can define users and groups, and then you protect directories by restricting access to specific users and/or groups. Now all I have to do is find out why it isn't rereading the config file when I update user access.

Thanks once again for ALL your help. Sorry for the wild goose chase....:)

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RE: Login prompt driving me CRAZY!!! - 3/11/2004 8:44:32   
It's a learning curve for us all.

And you're right I would never have guessed it was a third-party program problem

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