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stegroid -> Really big problem... (3/24/2004 18:19:42)

OK, here goes. I use Dreamweaver for my website, which is located at: http://www.msu.edu/~stegmanr/ryanhome.htm

That said, I have a big problem. All of the sudden my computer won't let me save images on websites. For some reason, after I save, I go to check the site for upload to my ftp server and it just doesn't work. The frames, or tables, or what have you all work, but the pictures just won't show! It used to work, but now it doesn't! It's a big problem because I bought this computer for web design and now I'm just stumped. It's been two weeks since I started having this problem. Also, it's not the program because I installed Adobe GoLive to see if that would work, but it doesn't! Nothing freaking works! If anybody has any information as to what I should do, please, please, please let me know! I'm pulling my hair out here!

Thanks,

Ryan



LoriL1212 -> RE: Really big problem... (3/24/2004 19:56:31)

Why don't you download a trial version of WS_FTP and try it that way - let me know if you need help, or if that does not work either.



ellipisces -> RE: Really big problem... (3/24/2004 19:58:54)

possibly a quota issue. How much space does your "host" allow for it's accounts. Remember, this usually includes mail and logging...



Richard Dudley -> RE: Really big problem... (3/24/2004 20:09:11)

What pictures aren't showing? I didn't see any missing ones on your page. Maybe it's something in your browser--try deleting the temporary internet files (TOOLS >> Internet Options >> Delete Files if you use IE).

An alternative to WS_FTP is the open source FileZilla FTP software (http://filezilla.sourceforge.net/). FTP is another way to transfer your images to your server.



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/24/2004 21:17:11)

Well, thank you all...So far!

The problem is not that I cannot upload the images...It's that, even when saved on my own computer, the images do not show up on the pages! Uploading them is simple...It's just the fact that nothing saves anymore on my computer is the problem. I have been e-mailing myself all files and using a roommates computer to make the websites because I can't do it on my own computer....It's a big time issue that I don't even know if there's a logical explanation, but anyone who wants to give it a shot, I greatly appreciate it.

Ryan



ellipisces -> RE: Really big problem... (3/24/2004 21:23:28)

<confusion>
quote:

It's that, even when saved on my own computer, the images do not show up on the pages!


then

quote:

nothing saves anymore on my computer is the problem.
</confusion>

are you able to "see" the files on your computer???



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 1:09:29)

ellipisces: Yeah, I can see the files on my computer. I can open the files as you can any html file...The only problem is that where the images are supposed to be, there are red x's...It looks like any website where the pictures aren't uploaded properly. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if I can simplify it, that the pictures won't even work IN COMPUTER...I mean, I can see 'em on Dreamweaver, but once I save it, the pictures are no longer part of the webpage.



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 1:10:47)

Oh, and also, when I save a file with pictures in Dreamweaver, and then open that same file in Adobe GoLive, the same file that I cannot see the pictures in when just opening it, the pictures DO work! It's quite bizarre. Anyway, thanks so much everybody for the help you've given thus far, and keep it coming!

Ryan



ellipisces -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 1:17:08)

quote:

The only problem is that where the images are supposed to be, there are red x's
sounds like a path or location problem. In other words the pictures are either not where they are supposed to be, or the anchor tag is pointing to the wrong location. In most web design programs the images are kept in a folder called "images" within the website. It just makes it easier to maintain and transfer the files. Try to put the images in a folder within the websites folder, re-do the "insert image" function, see what happens...



d a v e -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 1:25:35)

try "check links sitewide" to see if you have any broken ones
if any of above doesn't work make one simple page with just one line of text and one image. preview it locally - does it work?
upload page and image in dreamweaver and then check the remote directory listing - are they in there?
check the url - is the picture there?
check the picture is a jpeg/gif/png (and not bitmap)
post a url of a page with broken image



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:14:11)

Alright, I tried everything, nothing checks out...Here's a page with a broken link:

http://www.msu.edu/~stegmanr/thunder.htm

Thanks!

Ryan



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:20:28)

Oh, and here's the link to a site that I made without using an images folder...Just to check it...

http://www.msu.edu/~stegmanr/thunder1.htm

Let me know, and thanks again!

Ryan



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:22:51)

OK, I think I may have just had a revelation...When I started making this website, I had a folder with everything in it and inside of that folder there was a folder named images. Now, I can't delete any folders named images in my ftp server! I don't know why, but it's pissing me off. I think that everything in my whole computer must be thrown off big time or something...Lemme know if you guys have any ideas!

Ryan



LoriL1212 -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:24:01) 

http://www.msu.edu/images/Agents%20sketches.jpg


For this one, you are not calling the image correctly. Should it not be: 

http://www.msu.edu/~stegmanr/images/Agents%20sketches.jpg


... also, you should not have spaces in the names of your images.



Giomanach -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:25:07)

Dr HTMl says:

Link 1:

quote:

Agents20sketches.jpg --- Undocumented Server Error (404) --- 10


Link 2:

quote:

Agents20sketches.jpg --- Undocumented Server Error (404) --- 10


4XX server errors can mean unauthorised access, or it doesn't exist[8D]

Dan



Minix -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:32:46)

Don't know about Dreamweaver, but Front Page does this:

If you are placing an image on a web page, you must use the Insert function within Front Page to get that image into the proper folder. If you simply copy an image from a non-FP folder on your hard drive and simply paste it onto your page, it will not update the target properly.

Lessoned learned the hard way.



Giomanach -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:34:44)

Dreamweaver:

Insert>Image>Browse for the Image>Insert Alternate Text>Click OK and it's done. And unless the html doc is saved, DW will use relatvoe paths to the images.



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:36:00)

Lori, you are definitely on to something. The images that work, such as http://www.msu.edu/~stegmanr/andie1.htm work fine! This last one, though, doesn't. I haven't changed anything that I'm doing, though! Should I try fixing it in code, because I usually make my websites by working remotely and then uploading to server, and I don't know how to do it any other way...



Giomanach -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:39:32)

On both pages remove the / before the image names in you <img> tags, see what happens[:)]



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:40:59)

OK, here's a HUGE problem. On a functioning website within my computer, the image properties has it located at:

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Ryan%20Stegman/My%20Documents/Unnamed%20Site%202/andie1.jpg

On a non-functioning image on a website, the image path is:

file:///Agents%20sketches.jpg

I'm stumped because I've never, ever changed a thing!

Any help?

Ryan



stegroid -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:42:30)

Oh, cripes, Gio! That worked! Why? What was the problem? Just so's I don't make the same mistake again. And thanks so much!



Giomanach -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:46:16)

It's all b'cos the / defines the directory structure. Inserting a / before an image name should declare that it is in the same directory, but in this case, it's telling the browser it's to look for the sub-directory of that image. Don't ask me why, but things like this happen.

At least it works now, I'm off home for the rest of the day, Lori, I'll catch up with you in the morning, well, your morning



d a v e -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 11:48:50)

i've never had this problem in DW before - bit baffled how it happened...



ellipisces -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 18:21:29)

he moved or deleted the images folder from DW after making the site. DW isn't like frontpage, it won't automatically update hyperlinks when you move a file.

Like I said "Looks like a path or file location problem..."



LoriL1212 -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 19:28:02)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ellipisces
DW isn't like frontpage, it won't automatically update hyperlinks when you move a file.


Sorry, but you are mistaken. It does update them when something is moved or deleted.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 20:23:30)

Lori, is this new in DW? I was told by many people that if you moved a page, the hyperlink would not be updated inside DW. Is this new to the MX 2004 version? Or were my sources mistaken as well?



ellipisces -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 20:27:41)

quote:

does update them when something is moved or deleted.
could be, the last DW I used was like, 2001, no MX or anything fancy like that. That doesn't really help with the explanation of why the file links broke though...



LoriL1212 -> RE: Really big problem... (3/25/2004 21:20:49)

quote:

ORIGINAL: stegroid
Now, I can't delete any folders named images in my ftp server! I don't know why, but it's pissing me off.
Ryan


Lots of hosts, including mine will not let you delete folders that have items within them. I would go in, delete all the images inside the folder, then delete the folder.

quote:

file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Ryan%20Stegman/My%20Documents/Unnamed%20Site%202/andie1.jpg


This link has me thinking... have you "Defined Sites" within DW? If you do not define the site before working in it, this is what the link looks like. If the site is defined, then you pull down the dropdown menu next to Sites: and choose the site to work with. If this was defined then the link would be just "andie1.jpg" (which actually should be located within an images folder)

quote:

BobbyDouglas:

Lori, is this new in DW? I was told by many people that if you moved a page, the hyperlink would not be updated inside DW. Is this new to the MX 2004 version? Or were my sources mistaken as well?


Your sources were mistaken, I have DW Ultra Dev, but even in DW4 it updated the links.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Really big problem... (3/26/2004 0:14:19)

Can you show me? Or point me to a place on Macromedia that does this?

This is one of the main reasons why I used FP over DW. I jsut asked another user, and he said that if you move an image, it will not update the image clocation inside of your page.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Really big problem... (3/26/2004 0:17:28)

Ok, just had two people check to see if it does. Both said no. Can you tell me the steps to do this?

[edit]Ok, someone else told me:
it asked me whether i wanted to update and gave me a list of all pages linking to the one I reneamed. and I could select which pages to updatre the link of. however... that is only within that "Site" as defined by dw. if it was an external page, the links would NOT be updated. oibviously[/edit]

Is this what you are talking about?



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