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Ed Mazur -> Yahoo! Website Services (7/31/2001 18:06:00)

I recently signed up with Yahoo! Website Services (website.yahoo.com) to host my website (www.racquetballx.com). However, I recently discovered that they do not support any of the large scripts (ASP, CGI, PHP). I had wanted to use ASP on my site! Is this really that bad of a thing? Instead of that, they offer Miva. Is this a good alternative or should I consider finding a new host? I would appreciate some other opinions on this.

Also, if anyone else knows of an affordable (very important) and reliable host, that would be great! TIA.

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Ed Mazur
racquetballx.com





Gil -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (7/31/2001 19:02:00)

I'm not sure what you mean by not supporting "large" scripts? Do they support small ones? What is "large" and what is "small"? Most scripts used are less than 100 or so lines anyway.

Miva is a shopping cart application - not to be confused with CGI resources.

Maybe if you gave us an idea of what you want to do we could make a better assesment...

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Ed Mazur -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (7/31/2001 23:11:00)

Sorry for the lack of clarity, when I said large, I meant more widely used. I was going to add a discussion board from Snitz on my site, but when I enquired to Yahoo! Website Services as to whether or not they supported the use of Active Server Pages, they replied "no". They said that they support Miva as an alternative.
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My question: Is Miva is a good substitute? I as well realized that Miva is a shopping cart application but Yahoo! Website Services seems to use it as an alternative to ASP, CGI, and PHP. They say that Miva can be used for guestbooks, forms, and discussion boards.

Once again, I was wondering if I should go ahead and use this to make my discussion board or if I should find a new host that supports ASP and other scripts? If so, does anyone know of an affordable and reliable host? TIA once again.

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Ed Mazur
racquetballx.com





Gil -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/1/2001 20:35:00)

Ed, I've never seen miva used for anything other than a shopping cart. I couldn't begin to comment on it's use for the other things you mentioned. But, if you want full functionality on your site you'll have to have the ability to run scripts of some kind. As for ASP -vs- Perl -vs- PHP, that's a decision you'll have to make depending on how well you understand/code each of those languages.

BTW, CGI is a protocol not a language, about any scripting language (PHP, Perl, etc.) can be run via CGI.

What do you consider affordable? Most Host offer packages now for less than $20/month.

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Ed Mazur -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/1/2001 20:55:00)

When viewing Yahoo's FAQ, this is their answer for the question, "What is Miva?"

The XML-based Miva Script language is a tag-based system that allows HTML users to build active content documents. Yahoo! Website Services offers the Miva language as an alternative to CGI-bin access. Our web servers are Miva-enabled, meaning that they are able to run scripts created with Miva. Yahoo! Website Services offers several Miva Scripts for free with your web site. Advanced users can develop function libraries using Miva Script's user-defined function capabilities.

Miva operates as a preprocessor for CGI that interprets HTML and Miva tags. It reads the Miva document and looks for tags with which it is familiar; all other tags are output as they are found. This is similar in concept to the way that a browser "ignores" tags that it doesn't know about. Special precautions have been taken to ensure compatibility with browser tags -- even if a browser vendor implements exactly the same tag. Because Miva is server- and browser-independent, you can freely mix HTML and Miva code in a Miva document. As a matter of fact, you can even create HTML code on the fly!

I don't know if this helps but thanks anyway. I am currently paying $15 a month on Yahoo! and so I would be looking for something probably under $20. Any suggestions?

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Ed Mazur
racquetballx.com





Gil -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/1/2001 20:31:00)

Morning Ed,

I've read about Mive before, just never known anyone to use it for anything other than a cart. I can't comment on how well it does or doesn't preform. However, unless you know (or learn) the Miva scripting, you are limited to the scripts they (Yahoo) have available - the advantage of Perl is there are thousands of Perl scripts available FREE. The last estimate I remember was that over 75% of all CGI/script applications on the WWW were Perl. ASP has grown in the past few years with the improvement of Win servers.

Your "under $20" should allow a large choice of host - I'll leave the suggestions to others

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Gil Harvey
The Host Factory
Resellers are our speciality
"Indecision may or may not be my problem"





LB -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/2/2001 17:19:00)

Hi, Ed -

For 50mb for only $10/set-up and $9.95/month, Gil offers quite a deal with his own hosting company. $19.95/month for 150mb.

Only Unix servers though, so ASP is out if you are set on using that. PHP, cgi, perl scripts are all fine.

www.datapipe.com is another good host.

Linda





gorilla -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/3/2001 20:52:00)

I read on another posting here that

www.hostyard.com give a great service and at a wonderful price.

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Ed Mazur -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/3/2001 19:54:00)

I have been doing some research of my own as well and I found a host that seems very promising...www.1planhost.com. Here are some of the details:
  • $99/year
  • 500 MB
  • Unlimited data transfer
  • Domain registeration
  • Unlimited POP3 Email Accounts
  • Website Statistics
  • FP98 and 2000 extensions
  • Supports ASP
  • Supports Access 98/2000 Databases
  • Perl/CGI
  • Cold Fusion
  • PHP
  • The list goes on, go to their site for more!

This seems like a real deal to me, but after all, I am a newbie and so their may be some sort of catch or something !

It would be great if a few of you could go to their site (www.1planhost.com) and tell me if this seems like a reliable host.

By the way, just in case anyone was wondering, I found their site with www.hostsearch.com, I recommend that site to anyone that is looking for a new host...you can enter in a price limit, FP extensions, specify scripts, and more!

TIA for your input!

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Ed Mazur
racquetballx.com





Ed Mazur -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/7/2001 16:20:00)

It's been almost 4 days and still no response, anybody???

TIA.

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Ed Mazur
racquetballx.com





Rian -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/7/2001 17:16:00)

quote:
Originally posted by Ed Mazur:
It would be great if a few of you could go to their site (www.1planhost.com) and tell me if this seems like a reliable host.

Maybe it's just me being paranoid.....but does this service just sound too good...??

I would try to get some references and call their support line to see what kind of service you get...

Rian

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Gil -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/7/2001 20:47:00)

Looks good to me - The only thing I noticed was mail is only POP3, no SMTP and I didn't see any mention of web mail.

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Gil Harvey
The Host Factory
Resellers are our speciality
"Indecision may or may not be my problem"





Ed Mazur -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/8/2001 13:53:00)

quote:
Originally posted by Rian:
Maybe it's just me being paranoid.....but does this service just sound too good...??

This is exactly what I thought at first as well. However, on hostsearch.com (this is where I found them) they provide user reviews. There were 11 reviews and they all gave them 10 out of 10!

They all mentioned that there was great server support. The help seemed to be very responsive and they got replies very quickly!

Let me know what you all think.

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Smiles,
Ed Mazur

racquetballx.com





Xtreme2000 -> RE: Yahoo! Website Services (8/11/2001 20:19:00)

You might want to try www.globalhosting.com fairly good hosting service.. My company used it them..Good tech support for sure... Fix everything right there and then when you have problem of couse...

See if you like that,... They just upgraded their control panel.. user friendly...

Just check them out and see if you like it.

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