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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/1/2004 11:01:14
your buttons are too big 5.5k! you could use css but you won't get that jukebos look. I'm sure you could make smaller (filesize) buttons say half the size if they were gifs and carefully optimised.
i don't think using flash would save that much also once the buttons are loaded they're in cache anyway.
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/1/2004 11:31:03
well for example this is only 1.83k (it's not exactly the same but it's similar enough to get an idea of compression and clarity)
http://members.surfeu.fi/dave_pirjo/test-area/graphics/jukebox_eg.gif
(can't upload a pic in quick reply mode)
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/1/2004 13:14:20
yes but the feel of this site is largely due to the images and therefore the rolloovers, i don't think you could achieve the same look and feel using css buttons. i'd personally go with the rollovers, if they were smaller - or at least optimise the whole jukebox graphic as much as possible before having to resort to css. I think for this kind of site the rollovers are a legitimate choice if not an obligatory one.
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/1/2004 14:36:50
You can do image rollovers with CSS. It's just a bit long winded that's all. I'll take a screen shot of the Jukebox later, and try and put it into Flash Player 4 for you, if I get the time to
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/1/2004 16:08:30
did you optimise as gifs?
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/1/2004 16:22:50
i did my example in fireworks and did it as a gif and it seemed fairly small (as per eg half a page up) but i didn't look into it that much. glad you've sussed it!
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/2/2004 1:49:12
CSS Image rollovers, longwinded, but it works:
To start off with, set a class for all of the cells for the images to go in:
.link1{
backfround-image: url(imagelocation.jpg);
background-position: fixed;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
}
Set one for each cell. Assign the classes to the cells. Now, create one transparent gif, the same size as the cell, without a border etc as the link. It's got nothing in it so it should be practically sizeless (is that a word????). Insert into each cell.
The set your hover links for the table (obviously set a general a:hover for this)
jukebox a:hover{
background-image: url(imagelocation2.jpg);
background-position: fixed;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
}
might have to set the rollovers individually, depends on how you set the originals
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/2/2004 12:47:23
Jaybee, this IS something that would be a lot nicer in flash.
I think it would be best to provide a flash option, but have a JS that will check if the user has flash, if so, continue down the correct page, else goto another page of html.
If you can send me the source images I could whip up some flash in no time for ya so you can see the difference. If you feel like spending countless hours trying to fuss around with CSS/image compression go ahead and do it, as some people do not have flash.
Since your are on Apache, check out my PHP Compression Tool to save some stuff.
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/18/2004 19:14:51
Flash would save you a lot of file size, in fact i could take the whole jukebox image with all button and get it down to about 8k in total. Plus me like many users don't have Active Script enabled due to security reasons. I only enable it for this site, and i really should have to, but anyway.... do it in flash version 3 and you will have no problems, that is if you a skilled at flash
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/18/2004 20:01:47
omg P J Proby!
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RE: To Flash or not to flash? - 5/19/2004 8:28:24
We were sort of fascinated with him in the States in the mid 60s but could get little info or music on him. The guy from that era that I am still a great fan of is Peter Green ala Fleetwood Mac. I got to see him in Cleveland in 98 after his comeback.
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