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heidi.reichert -> Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/3/2004 16:03:44)

1) I am unable to find the "custom" option for creating hover buttons in FrontPage 2003. (I would like to use images I created in photoshop.) The FrontPage "how to" directions say it exists...but I can't find it. I tried changing various settings recommended in the FrontPage help index, but no success yet.

2) I've seen a lot of advice not to use hover buttons because they cause problems. Is it because of Front Page problems exclusively? Just curious. I don't want to use them if they cause too many problems for users.

Many thanks!
Heidi



bobby -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/3/2004 17:10:50)

You're better off using a Javascript like the one in this tutorial:
http://www.outfront.net/tutorials_02/adv_tech/rollovers1.htm

Or the Dynamic Image Swap option in FP (under components, I think...)

The ones that FP builds aren't reliable at all...



ellipisces -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/3/2004 21:10:55)

You may be looking for the DHTML effects

select your initial image

go to: Format-->Dynamic DHTML Effects

a floating menu will appear and the options in this menu will change depending on what is selected. Mouse over would be a hover, and you would choose image swap from the middle box.



heidi.reichert -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 8:28:29)

Thank you! I don't have the dynamic DHTML effect option under the format menu either...even after I click on the image...

I'll do the tutorial recommended, as well. I am so thankful for all the quick advice and suggestions.



jaybee -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 10:53:52)

I'm sure it's a new option off the Insert menu. Try looking in there and expanding all the options. You'll see one called Interactive buttons or something like that.

Sorry I can't be more specific but I'm at work and FP2003 is at home. If you still can't find it I can post the answer in about.......2 hours.



jaybee -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 10:57:43)

quote:

The ones that FP builds aren't reliable at all...


Really? I've not used them but they look pretty good. What's the problem with them Bobby?



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 11:05:18)

Not sure what is wrong with them. I think he is getting at the java buttons. Those ones are really bad!



jaybee -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 13:02:41)

OK,

Make sure you have a page open in design view.

Insert>Web Component>Interactive Button



heidi.reichert -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 15:46:19)

I have the option to insert a hover button, but not to "cusomize" it. I can choose any of the buttons designed by Front Page, but I can't use an image I created. I found these directions in FrontPage, but notice the first line, that it only apples to earlier versions...I'm so confused! Am I able to use images I created in Photoshop to create custom hover buttons?


This procedure applies only to a hover button that you created by using an earlier version of Microsoft FrontPage.

You can add a picture as the background of a hover button, as the hover effect, or both.

In Page view, at the bottom of the document window, click Design .
Right-click the hover button, and then click Hover Button Properties on the shortcut menu.
Click Custom.
Next to the Button box, click Browse.
Locate and click the picture file, and then click Open.
To return to the Hover Button Properties dialog box, click OK.
In the Width and Height boxes, type the width and height of the picture in pixels, and then click OK.
The size of the picture should match the size of the hover button.



heidi.reichert -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 15:47:59)

I should add that I was able to do this in Front Page 2002 (version I had at work), just how the directions said to do it...but I can't find the same "custom" option in 2003 (the version I have at home)...



bobby -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 15:52:04)

The Front Page component hover buttons are junk... they don't work. And if you're lucky enough to get them to work sometimes, then it's only about 75% of your visitors that can't navigate your site...

[8|]

Keep in mind that I haven't tried to use them since early on with FP '02... but I learned early on not to rely on FP for hover buttons...

[&o]



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 15:57:36)

I agree... the only type of buttons that are good, are the ones that you use the DHTML swap image fucntion upon rollover inside of FP. The hover buttons FP has are so bad. I admit though that I had lots of fun playing with them when I was a newb to FP. [:)]

Do what bobby said earlier:
quote:

You're better off using a Javascript like the one in this tutorial:
http://www.outfront.net/tutorials_02/adv_tech/rollovers1.htm



jaybee -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/4/2004 16:11:16)

No, you're quite right you can't. Well P**!

Have a look at www.likno.com

I use Allweb to make menus fast and you can pull in your own graphics.



heidi.reichert -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/5/2004 9:27:09)

Aha! Thank you. I assume Micrsoft took out the feature for 2003 because it--as you so eloquently put it-- was "junk"! That makes sense. Mystery solved. I'll attempt to learn the dhtml....

Many, many thanks for your help!
Heidi



gorilla -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/5/2004 18:35:37)

In all of this the respondents have told you about various javascripts, dhtml menus, the hover component's hideously unstable java code, and so on.

It does occur to me to wonder why you don't just use css to style the link and use a differentt bg image for hover

a { background-image: url(image1.gif); }

a:hover { background-image: url(image2.gif); }

No scripting required, a onetime bandwidth hit, well supported by all modern browsers. And of course you can customise the images to your heart's desire :-)

Just a thought.



bobby -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/6/2004 0:28:57)

quote:

as you so eloquently put it-- was "junk"!

LOL!
That was pretty gruff wasn't it... [8|]

gorilla makes a great suggestion. Depending on what kind of button you want, CSS can be very easy, very fast, and very reliable... it's worth playing with anyway.

I used CSS for "hover" buttons on each of my last three sites.

The best part is you only have to make two graphics (sometimes only one) and if you want to add or change a button you don't have to create whole new images [;)]



lilblackgirl -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/6/2004 0:59:34)

see, that's why we keep that beautiful blonde around here. He always knows what's best.



ellipisces -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/6/2004 2:29:32)

if you want to grab a bunch of code for some css buttons, and read about how it's done check here

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/taminglists/


[&:][;)][8|]



heidi.reichert -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/11/2004 13:13:58)

Thank you! I'll check out all of the links and suggestions...I am hoping to find some time to really learn how to do all of this by code...and not be so dependent on Front Page...

You are all so wonderfully helpful! THANK YOU!!



OscarSierra -> RE: Custom Hover Buttons for FrontPage 2003 (5/14/2004 15:20:40)

Why not take the step to start using flash...... ?

Check these sites for some neat and easy to use software http://www.swishzone.com or http://www.sothink.com



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