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User Login - 5/10/2004 21:14:36   
Im so glad I found this forum.:)
I have a site up ..with an application page to join a team within a game. I had it set up to send info to a file on server and also to me via E-Mail. It worked fine for months. All of a sudden it's asking anyone that sends info (Including myself) for a user name and password when you click on send. I have talked to my host and they assure me it's something FP is doing. Have rebuilt that page many times to have it work once and then the same thing happens.
There is a similar site up (not mine) that has the same thing on the same server. His was built with Dreamweaver and works fine on same server.
Heres a link to the page itself as I have it disabled in the site for now seeings it doesn't work. http://jaw.infopop.cc/new_join.htm to the actual site is http://jaw.infopop.cc/jawclanr.htm turn your speakers down the intro is kinda loud.
Your my last hope. Beating self to death for 6 weeks on this.
Thanks in advance,
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RE: User Login - 5/10/2004 22:33:44   
if there are any parts of a page (pictures, includes, maybe form results) that are in a protected folder in the site, then the login prompt will be created. That also includes the _private folder...:):):)

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RE: User Login - 5/11/2004 6:39:11   
So I should ask /tell FP to store it in public HTML folder somewhere? If so I have done this at this pint. It is in a folder I call storage/enlistments.txt . I have aslo tried enlistments.html. My host has permissions I can set . Here are my choices.
600 Makes a file inaccessible

644 Readable by everyone (e.g. HTML documents)
666 File can be read and modified (e.g. for HTML files modified by scripts)
755 File can be read and executed by everyone (e.g. for scripts)
777 Writable and executable by everyone (not recommended)

Directories
711 Files in directory can be read by everyone, but not directory contents
755 Files and contents of directory can be seen by everyone
777 Allows full read/write/delete access to a directory (not recommended)
I have tried most all these permissions.

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RE: User Login - 5/11/2004 21:26:46   
man, there have been so many posts about permissions and logins lately I wonder if Microsoft has screwed up the Extensions and permissions?

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So I should ask /tell FP to store it in public HTML folder somewhere
1. First try to set this location in the form properties: _private/enlistments.txt

Everybody, here's Bob's code, i can't see anything wrong with it

there is a Frontpage validator before the code and the rest of the form stuff after

quote:

</script><!--webbot BOT="GeneratedScript" endspan -->
<form language="JavaScript"
name="FrontPage_Form1"
onsubmit="return FrontPage_Form1_Validator(this)"
method="POST" action="_vti_bin/shtml.exe/new_join.htm"
webbot-action="--WEBBOT-SELF--">

<!--webbot bot="SaveResults"
U-File="storage/enlistments_1.txt"
S-Format="TEXT/PRE"
S-Label-Fields="TRUE"
B-Reverse-Chronology="FALSE"
S-Email-Format="TEXT/PRE"
S-Email-Address="hismail@swfla.rr.com"
B-Email-Label-Fields="TRUE"
S-Builtin-Fields U-Confirmation-Url="confirm_join.htm" startspan -->
<input TYPE="hidden" NAME="VTI-GROUP" VALUE="0">
<!--webbot bot="SaveResults" i-checksum="43374" endspan -->
<div align="center">


2. Since the code looks OK, Bob, you might try to set permissions. Get a pencil and paper and write down all of your changes. Remember that a file will inheirit permissions from its parent folder.

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 3:31:05   
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ORIGINAL: Bob4
There is a similar site up (not mine) that has the same thing on the same server. His was built with Dreamweaver and works fine on same server.


Can you borrow his code, plug it in to your site and give that a go?
Or, do you or a friend have access to another host you can try your code out on?

I suspect that despite the assurances of your host that they've got a problem with the extensions. It seems odd that it works once and then stops. If it was FP I don't think that would happen.

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 6:28:06   
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ORIGINAL: ellipisces

[1. First try to set this location in the form properties: _private/enlistments.txt


Ok I thought someone said that if ya try and place it anywhere in _pvt
that generated the user name and password operation. But by default FP had it there in the beggining when it did work.

JAYBEE : Should I try and just copy his HTML?
One more thing. If ya haven'yt figured it out I'm a novice at this.

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 7:18:44   
Ok I tried the following to no avail. Borrowed the html from the other similar page. I have direst access to it. Made all the changes to submit things in the correct place. Saved file to _private/enlisments.htm Still asking for name and password.
I had my host reset all the front page extentions before I did this.

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Richard Dudley

 

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 9:34:53   
Bob,

Are you on a LINUX or UNIX server? I haven't seen those permissions settings on Windows.

quote:

All of a sudden it's asking anyone that sends info (Including myself) for a user name and password when you click on send.


Try enabling WRITE access on the _private folder. See if you can get 666 on the directory, if not try 711. When you use a web bot to submit form information, FP uses a file usually called form_results.txt (or something like that) to stash the values quickly. This file is usually in the _private dir, and should probably also have 666 permissions on it. See if it's there, and try changing the permissions. If not, just try 666 or 711 on _private.

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 16:25:43   
Not sure weather it's a linux or Uninx server. It is located @ infopop

Tried setting permissions in files to 666 and 711 ..No go. ..
Man, can ya see my frustration? Infopop them selves havent been able to answer this yet.:)
But please keep the ideas comin .:)

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 19:42:26   
How bout this:

Is the form actually completing? By that I mean is it actually posting the form data? Does the page "enlistments" already exist or does the submission need to create it, the first time? If so then you may try to set up a page called enlistments.html, blank, with the correct permissions set. Then try the form.

If the form is posting, then it could be that the confirmation page is the culprit, needing permissions to write.

<edit>Richard, looks like he's on a Linux server and everything is up to date

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Bob4

 

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 21:43:15   
Yes that page exisists. Gave all permission to write to. But I will look at the confimation page.

OK, I looked and gave permission to confirmation page. Still a no go.
Question: Do all these files need to be in the same folder?
And the link that comes up when you click cancel on the login, is this link trying to execute a file script? http://jaw.infopop.cc/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/new_join.htm

Funny thing is I can't even log into this login.

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 22:06:37   
quote:

Yes that page exisists.
can you tell if is updating, when you press submit?

generally all of the files do not have to be in the same folder

There was another post that I was following where the person had to install/uninstall the extensions about four times, and then the form started working. Go figure.

Might try that. the post is here:
http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-199626/tm.htm

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 22:09:38   
OH MY!! I made a new one just by copying html to a new page and it worked twice. I'm not to excited as this has happened before just to have it die on me.
I havent even tried to open it in a frame yet.
Heres the link see if it works for anyone else.
http://www.jaw.infopop.cc/Untitled-2.htm

Could my problem be in frames?

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RE: User Login - 5/12/2004 22:21:14   
first things first,

Make a copy of the working form page!

it will still work if something happens to the original even if you move it to another folder

Yay!

:):):)

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Richard Dudley

 

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RE: User Login - 5/13/2004 0:04:47   
As a general rule, pretent any folder that starts _vti doesn't exist. Just ignore them--the server uses those folders, they're not real files, leave them alone.

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Richard Dudley

 

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RE: User Login - 5/13/2004 0:07:42   
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I havent even tried to open it in a frame yet.


Frames are involved? Although I hope your new form works, I'll bet you a nickel it doesn't when you put it in a frameset. Another culprit might be that the form doesn't know which frame to submit to. Try adding TARGET="framename" to the FORM tag.

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RE: User Login - 5/13/2004 6:30:41   
One ahead of ya on that Ellipisces, each time I have gotten one to work I save em.:)
Still works this morning too. I will now start do things that need to be done. One at a time of course and see where it stops working.

Richard: althouigh I'm not familiar with HTML. ( metioned i'm a begginer in this thread) I have told each page to open in Main frame. Actually when I thought about the frames being a problem I told it once to open in its own window. But the last thing I will do is have it open in main target frame. And even though it's only a nickle I wouldn't take that bet!! But a quarter says your right !!

EDIT:..:) It died. Started asking for name and pw again.I added backround ..it worked...I linked it from the main page it diedhttp://jaw.infopop.cc/jawclanr.htm!! Told it to open in a new window. Culprit has to be something is wrong in 1 of the frames?
I owe Richard a quarter.

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RE: User Login - 5/16/2004 11:42:22   
I want to thank all that helped me on this. It's still not working quite right but I just changed the way I have to link to it.

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