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tgorski
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HTML page redirect - 5/18/2004 18:21:52
I've seen all kinds of page redirect advice here, but none for redirecting an html page to another page (html OR asp) on a Windows server that does NOT risk being identified as spam by the search engines ...
... unless my best choice is the meta tag redirect with a sufficiently long pause of 10 seconds or more?
The pages I want to redirect from have built up considerable traffic and page rank (not to mention they're already indexed!), and I'd like to do whatever I can to keep the traffic flow!
I'd appreciate any input or consensus.
Thanks
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J-man
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/18/2004 18:58:09
you could use an include file and in that include file piece together the url redirection of the asp code
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/19/2004 2:32:57
... unless my best choice is the meta tag redirect with a sufficiently long pause of 10 seconds or more?
- You can set it for 1 second, should be perfect for what you want to do.
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/19/2004 7:40:59
301 redirect if the page is no longer present works nicely. These links cover anything you would want to klnow on this server status...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=301+redirect
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tgorski
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/19/2004 11:06:56
Thanks J-man, I'll take a look at that.
BobbyDouglas, doesn't a pause that short risk labeling the page as spam? That's what I've been lead to believe elsewhere.
Thanks Reflect, but doesn't the 301 Redirect ONLY work on ASP pages? The page in question is an HTML page.
Come on folks! Let's build some consensus on this topic!
As always, this site TOTALLY rocks! (Thanks to the experience and contributions of its contributors)
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tgorski
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/19/2004 11:22:40
J-man: I tried the include file approach, but came up with 2 problems:
1. You can't include an ASP page in an HTML file.
2. And even if you could, the ASP code needs to appear BEFORE the HTML tags.
For what it's worth, the main goal here is to keep the HTML page "active" since it is already indexed and bringing quality traffic, and to redirect the visitor AND search engine spider to a page that offers similar content so that the "integrity" of the keyword search terms AND the visitors search are maintained.
I'm not trying to SPAM anyone here. But if we work hard to build a high traffic page that, for whatever reason needs to be moved or taken down, I want to find a way to temporarily redirect visitors and spiders until the page in question gradually loses its page rank and traffic.
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tgorski
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/19/2004 11:26:57
Thanks as well, Bobby, but isn't it tru that the only way to process ASP code is via an ASP page? And my problem is with redirecting an HTML page.
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/19/2004 11:56:27
BobbyDouglas, doesn't a pause that short risk labeling the page as spam? That's what I've been lead to believe elsewhere.
- I am not quite sure what will happen to the rankings of the page. I was simply suggesting a way to redirect faster than the 11 seconds you said earlier.
Thanks Reflect, but doesn't the 301 Redirect ONLY work on ASP pages?
- I always thought the 301 redirects were used in the .htaccess file? I do know that Google does not quite like sites that use them, (at least the larger sites) as it takes time for the new site to get listed into google. I remember awhile back a site that had around 30,000 pages took about 5 months to FULLY come back listed inside of google.
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Reflect
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RE: HTML page redirect - 5/21/2004 12:36:18
quote:
Thanks Reflect, but doesn't the 301 Redirect ONLY work on ASP pages? The page in question is an HTML page.
Sorry for the late reply.
No, the status events are set at the server level and run regardless of page extensions.
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BobbyDouglas, doesn't a pause that short risk labeling the page as spam? That's what I've been lead to believe elsewhere.
That is what I also had learned. See the page that is now gone is allready indexed in Google's DBs. Then when the bot finds another page under your domain with the same content it thinks it is a duplicate page.
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I do know that Google does not quite like sites that use them, (at least the larger sites) as it takes time for the new site to get listed into google.
Good thought. I found this tip around 6 months ago in a thread over at Webmaster World. The outcome is that
Google, at that point in time, liked it the best as far as duplicate content went. 301 status means it has been moved permanently. Reference source: http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec10.html . Just search that page for 301 to get to the area on this.
Take care,
Brian
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