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BobbyDouglas -> How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 2:50:41)

How much would you pay (considering you were looking into doing marketing) for unique targeted visitors to your web site in a one month span of time?

Unique means unique IP addresses. You may also specify if you want to target visitors geographically in the US or Worldwide.

There will be around 20-25 different categories that your listing would be placed in.
1,000 Unique Visitors - $
10,000 Unique Visitors - $
25,000 Unique Visitors - $
50,000 Unique Visitors - $
100,000 Unique Visitors - $

(Copy & Paste the above and just add the price to the right side and reply)

Thanks [8D]



J-man -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 2:56:10)

unique ips.... every time i go on the internet i'm a different unique ip, infact over 100,000 users from my city have a new ip each time they go on the internet. It would be nice to have traffic from unique sessions based on net identity & machine id, not by ip



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 2:58:21)

I see your point, care to comment on the pricing though?



J-man -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 3:04:50)

Well if i had a website where my target audience could be anyone in the world and any demographic, such as selling a yo-yo:

1,000 Unique Visitors - $ 0.25
10,000 Unique Visitors - $ 1
25,000 Unique Visitors - $ 2.50
50,000 Unique Visitors - $ 5.00
100,000 Unique Visitors - $ 10.00



dpf -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 8:00:26)

Bobby: the real question of course is are they all potential customers? that s very dependant upon what you are selling. If you are selling a niche product or service ( and web design/hosting is niche) then "unique visitors" have a low probability of being potential customers. The other large variabble in this equation is the"20-25 different categories " you mention. how relevant are those cat's to your offering and what do the cats mean - are they search entries or referral sites? Another variable has to do with your product/service - is it something people feel comfortable buying "over the bet" or is it something they would prefer to buy locally.

One of the things that I like about Google Ad-words is that when you first set up your ad campaign and have no idea if you ar eon the right track, you can set a daily "cap" to protect your self against unexpectedly large number of "hits" that dont prove productive.



Mojo -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 9:01:54)

I'll play --

For targeted visitors:

There will be around 20-25 different categories that your listing would be placed in.
1,000 Unique Visitors - $520.00
10,000 Unique Visitors - $5,000.00
25,000 Unique Visitors - $13,000.00

I could not ship/purchase enough product to have more than 25k targeted visitors.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 11:41:26)

The keyword is targeted, so assume your website will fit into one of the 20-25 categories.

Meaning if someone is selling a web design server, they would be places inside of the webmaster directory.

J-man, I would really like you to explain a bit of your pricing structure.

25 cents for 1,000 Unique visitors who are REAL people? Seems very low, but maybe you have a specific reason behind it?

Mojo
- Do you have any websites you made dedicated to marketing/SEO?



dpf -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 12:16:03)

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25 cents for 1,000 Unique visitors who are REAL people?

Bobby: remember his point about dial up - you get a different ip address every time you sign up so i could visit 100 times with 100 "unique" ips but I am the same person. ON the flip side of the coin tho, assuming it involves those visitors clicking and coming to you site - it certainly has value!



J-man -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 12:23:19)

dpf kinda made the point by elaborating on the marketing aspect. Think of this as kinda of a flyer sent to peoples homes, in marketing if 1% respond to the flyer then the flyer was successful, usually this is under 1%, now with that said, when flyers are sent out they are are not arbitrarily thrown about. There is a reason and rhyme your house got the flyer and the equation should have taken more than a few days to put together. We are talking about the promotional aspect of the Marketing Mix, and in order to correctly have a marketing mix the other aspects of the marketing mix must by consistant with the promotional aspect. In a way your program is like a consultant, thinks it know what is best for my business but doesn't know anything about it, or at least thinks it does. For this program to alter my marketing mix does more harm to the branding aspect of products and seems to feed off the niaviety that the more hits someone has to their website teh more successful it will be, which is wrong since there is a difference between random throwing out flyers (which is what that would be towards someones marketing mix) and throwing out flyers in a very educated way. If you use your program to bring 100,000 unique sessions to my site, and i used various marketing tools that are consistent with my marketing mix to bring 100,000 unique sessions to my site, i bet the purchasing power behind the software method would have a success less than 0.1% and my promotional plan would have a success of about 10%. I put a low cost situated with those unique ips because it would take me a lot of time and effort to draw up the affects of such a promotion and maybe then realize that more harm than good came out of it, or maby more good than harm either way, a lot of effort to determine the results.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 13:57:39)

Bobby: remember his point about dial up - you get a different ip address every time you sign up so i could visit 100 times with 100 "unique" ips but I am the same person. ON the flip side of the coin tho, assuming it involves those visitors clicking and coming to you site - it certainly has value!
- Actually, the chances the same person will visit your site is very rare. Most of the links will be displayed on expired domains that still receive traffic.

There is risk! Marketing itself is just a risk when dealing with online advertising. Anyone can keep clicking your link. The only way to make 100% sure that the same user does not visit your site, is by placing a camera on each computer's monitor and then taking their picture, and then putting it into a database of photos that will check to see if teh person has been to the site or not.

J-man
- You make it sound like these unique visitors are just being thrown to your site and counted as a unique hit. There are cetegories that your site will fit into and people will have to go to these categories in order to find your web site.

Think of this as kinda of a flyer sent to peoples homes
- I wouldn't do that. When someone places a flyer on my door I usually don't even look twice at it. It is nothing like flyers. Flyers are NOT targeted advertisement.

In a way your program is like a consultant, thinks it know what is best for my business but doesn't know anything about it, or at least thinks it does.
- We hope the client knows what is best for their business. They pick the category their site is listed in, not us. But if we notice it is not revelant, then we will not start their campaign.

Seems like most of your points are about untargeted advertisement... Which I totally agree with, untargeted hits usually mean absolutely nothing for sales, except for websites who want to produce a lot of monthly traffic and make their money by selling advertisements on their pages.



Mojo -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 14:19:20)

Some people get it and some people don't.


quote:

Do you have any websites you made dedicated to marketing/SEO?


If your asking do I have a consulting business with a website the answer is yes and no. I have many sites that I own and operate on a daily basis for myself. I have another bakers dozen that are clients where I run SEM/SEO. All word of mouth. I just don't have time to develop a nice marketing site. Besides, I will not put up my client sites as examples for many reasons - so what is left?

( heck, I don't even have sites in my signature - many OF members have a PR5 from OF backlinks alone...)



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 14:25:20)

many OF members have a PR5 from OF backlinks alone...)
- Hehe, yes they do [;)]

I had around PR4 for awhile, came here for a few months and got it up to PR5.



J-man -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 15:10:24)

how would you drive traffic to my site listed with you?

are you talking about 'something' like this:

http://www.mavicanet.ru/directory/eng/


PS, BoB i have a radio station for you:
http://www.chumlimited.com/radio/stationpage.asp?stationID=74



Reflect -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 15:34:14)

quote:

The only way to make 100% sure that the same user does not visit your site, is by placing a camera on each computer's monitor and then taking their picture, and then putting it into a database of photos that will check to see if teh person has been to the site or not.


Or just use tracking cookies.

Brian



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 15:38:05)

It will be similar to that.

Or just use tracking cookies.
- That won't work at all. I could not enable cookies... Or I could delete the cookies.



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/19/2004 15:40:57)

PS, BoB i have a radio station for you:
http://www.chumlimited.com/radio/stationpage.asp?stationID=74

Haha love it. They named it after me too [:D]



J-man -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/20/2004 1:58:27)

Can you use aspx, aspx provides a work around by supporting cookieless sessions


or you could go with server software, this one IMO is the best: http://www.deepmetrix.com/livestats/net/



BobbyDouglas -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/20/2004 18:39:20)

Im not trying to change the software around at all. There will always be ways for these unique visitors to come twice, but it is not likely.



jok -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (5/31/2004 9:19:47)

Payments must be done only for targeted not all ones ;)



Scotty -> RE: How Much Would You Pay For.. (6/22/2004 0:47:19)

1,000 Unique Visitors - $100.00
10,000 Unique Visitors - $500.00
25,000 Unique Visitors - $probably more additional traffic than we could handle
50,000 Unique Visitors - $
100,000 Unique Visitors - $

For us, we find a large percentage are surfing for a search term similar to ours, related, but less specific. However, many may return months or years later as their building project progresses. Thus, paying between 5 cents and 25 cents per depends on how specific the keyword is.

Regards, Scotty



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