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markhawker -> www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/1/2004 13:42:45)

Hi, I'm just in the testing stages of my web site and I would appreciate any comments or improvements I could make. I've created it using Dreamweaver and 'tidied up' the code manually. I'm offering web design at competitive rates, mainly targeting clubs/small businesses.



LoriL1212 -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/2/2004 8:38:21)

First, I like the color choices that you have made for it. However, the link color that you have chosen blends into the green way too closely. You can barely see the links at all - I would change that. It is even a bit hard to read on the white as well.

You need to add a some padding to your tables so that the text is not smashed to the right.

I personally would center your layout. I think it would look better that way. As well, maybe some border around the content table... since you are working in such light colors, it really gets lost with all the white - don't get me wrong. It DOES look clean - just a bit TOO white (at least from my design eye).

Is there a particular reason you have chosen to go with that flat title at the top VS your actual logo? I would change that, and put your logo there, and loose the gray lettering, AND the mass of whitespace at the top.

The portfolio page definately needs some attention. With the light gray text, and no separation of the readable from the whitespace, is definately not working for me. Again, I would go with a centered layout, bordered, padded table, and I would stick with the green background color for all the tables.



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/2/2004 9:55:33)

Hi Lori, cheers for the comments. As you can see I've updated the site! I did think it was a bit too white so that's now been changed. I need a bit more content I think but have no ideas at the minute!

Thanks again,

Mark



LoriL1212 -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/2/2004 10:04:20)

WOW!

Much Much Much better!

As you can see in my link, I am a web developer, so you can peruse my site, and see if any content I have can be customized for you. Feel free to use what I have as a base to get started on your own.



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/2/2004 10:15:34)

I know! Cheers Lori, I'll have a look at your site now. I appreciate the advice and guidance, I agree everything does look a lot better. Mark



BamseIsUnix -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/4/2004 12:15:46)

The site look good and the colors are very nice, but there's just one thing I don't understand. Why does the site use frames when there's just one frame?

Let's assume my browser doesn't support frames or that I have disabled them. The <noframes> section then redirectes me to www.thebubblejungle.uk.tt, but then there is another <noframes> section which points me to http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/thebubblejungle/index.htm. And after that I see the real site (and can take a look at the source, hehe).

A typical website with mixed tables and CSS. Old fashioned, but functional in older browsers not supporting CSS2...

But I really like the colors, you know. Just one thing about the appearance. Please, (as Lori said) give the green links a bit more contrast. Good that I'm not using a laptop: those would be almost impossible to see on an lcd screen.

Regards,
Bamse



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/4/2004 13:47:22)

Point taken about the links, I have a TFT screen and they display fine but I've made them a bit darker now. The frames aren't of my doing, I simply can't afford a hosting service so I've had to go with a free Wanadoo one, but this displays an annoying ad frame at the top. I bought a forwarding domain but this can only point to a specific folder, and as far as I'm aware Wanadoo display all their pages inside a frame. I then found out about www.joynic.com which is a free service where you can have .uk.tt domains which forward to an absolute URL, so now www.thebubblejungle.co.uk points to www.thebubblejungle.uk.tt. I guess this would all be solved by buying a real hosting solution, but until I find some money it isn't really necessary.

What's the main difference between CSS and CSS2?



Giomanach -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/4/2004 13:52:29)

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What's the main difference between CSS and CSS2?

CSS standards are what differentiate (sp?) those two. Chek it out on http://www.w3.org



BamseIsUnix -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/5/2004 2:23:26)

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/changes.html

The biggest change (IMO) being the positioning. So why I mentioned CSS(1) and CSS2, is that if you want to create a beautiful and functional layout, you will propably need the positioning. Well you can also try using CSS1 'float'.

Regards,
Bamse



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/22/2004 16:33:22)

Hi, just a quickie. Does my font look too big now? I liked it as it was (main font was the size of the nav bar font) but somebody said it was too small. Any thoughts? Plus, any ideas for how I can spruce up my images on the portfolio?



Giomanach -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/22/2004 16:45:40)

The fonts are fine. As for the portfolio Images, look at Lori's portfolio, use something like that.... and neaten them up a bit

Dan



jaybee -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/23/2004 2:54:38)

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I have a TFT screen and they display fine


Warning for all TFT users......

We can see things that mortals with lesser monitors can't. Be very aware of contrasts and look at it on an ordinary screen. You may get a nasty surprise.



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/23/2004 4:36:29)

Cheers jaybee, I'll have to check that out because not many places I know now have CRT monitors!! School's all TFT and I have TFT too. What happens?



dpf -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/23/2004 8:08:12)

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We can see things that mortals with lesser monitors can't

jaybee: does this font make my butt look big?



jaybee -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/23/2004 8:56:25)

Dan..... eejit! [:D]

Mark

TFT screens are much brighter that crt so you can see colours with lesser contrast. You will find on a crt that they tend to merge more. Real problem for anyone with visual impairment of any kind.

Take a look at these sites. Fascinating to see what yours looks like to someone who is colourblind for example.

http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckURL.php
http://www.lighthouse.org/color_contrast.htm
http://www.colormatters.com/entercolormatters.html



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 6:53:43)

Hi again, I'm in need of some content for the home page right-hand side and also the services right-hand side. Any ideas? Thinking maybe an image, or a quote.

Mark



jaybee -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 6:59:24)

Well I was going to suggest something along the lines of you portfolio page but..........

Is it meant to look like that? (Firefox)

[image]local://upfiles/9075/2F742B41A41D4E20A7DD72556BBDF6FD.jpg[/image]



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 7:20:39)

Hi, erm, it's meant to look like that, why?! [:(]



jaybee -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 11:37:38)

Oooops. [:o]

I get it, it's just part of a screen shot of sites.

Sorry, I thought they were ads and you'd got divs that were missing bits. [&:]



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 11:48:25)

It's OK, don't worry about it [:D]



jaybee -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 15:03:03)

That'll teach you to be avant garde.

[;)]



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (6/28/2004 15:21:15)

I know, will stick to something traditional next time! Nah, better to be a bit different, at least some of the time anyways [:D]



LoriL1212 -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 3:48:59)

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ORIGINAL: markhawker

Hi again, I'm in need of some content for the home page right-hand side and also the services right-hand side. Any ideas? Thinking maybe an image, or a quote.

Mark


Hi again Mark,

Site looks good still - no, font is not too big....

Agree with Dan that your port images don't look so good - too big, plain and washed out... at least for being a "designer" -- showcase that work!

I used "quotes" as fillers on Dan's site........ I use Images on mine. For yours, I would use maybe ONE image (a small nice "enhanced" screenshot) of a work in progress, and a short quip about what you are doing to it... possibly a link to an old version (screenshot if need be) and a link to the new...

Then below, a link to GET A QUOTE!

Stick your "Friend's Links" on a "Links" page....

:)



jaybee -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 4:56:05)

Well I did say it was very nice of you to put the links on considering we are competition didn't I?

Lori is right, it shouldn't be on the front page. You're shooting yourself in the foot.



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 5:21:09)

All points taken! What makes you think they'd come to you.... [:D] only joking, the links will be moving shortly! Thanks again, Mark



Giomanach -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 8:02:25)

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Giomanach - The Imagination of Giomanach, "Giving Web Sites Youth" - a web design company based in London.

Ummmmm, I ain't in nodnoL lol.

I'm about 75-100 miles north of you Marky boy[:D]



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 8:09:11)

In Darlington? Is that true?



Giomanach -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 8:11:49)

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In Darlington? Is that true?

Wish I wasn't lol

I am not A web design company up here, I am THE web design company lol[:D]



markhawker -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 8:16:24)

What a small world, I was born in Darlington! Lived there 'til I was 8! Probably went to your school, did you go to Mount Pleasant? For now you can be A if that's OK! Plus, you seen my new host [:D] I went to this forum and said I'd moderate for them in exchange for hosting. Hopefully getting a free domain from them too! Yay!



Giomanach -> RE: www.thebubblejungle.co.uk - Advice Needed! (7/2/2004 8:20:26)

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Mount Pleasant?

Nope, Firth Moor and Hurworth (no I ain't posh, anything but, isn't that right JB dear?)

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I went to this forum and said I'd moderate for them in exchange for hosting.

That's called bribary.........this kids better than me lol

Note To Self - Retake Spy lessons[:D]



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