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bobbrann -> Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/3/2004 19:25:57)

Which is really better? How? and Why?



Giomanach -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/3/2004 23:20:14)

We can't provide the real answer for this question.

Many users will tell you that FrontPage is better, others will tell you that Dreamweaver is better, and there will be those that say neither. The FrontPage Vs Dreamweaver debate is all a personal fight.

The only advice we can successfully give you is, use which ever you find easiest.

I can provide you with information on the programs though, and this is located here:

http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/m-192823/tm.htm

Take Care

Dan



d a v e -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/4/2004 3:35:30)

after reading that you might want to try some of the demos as well and try it for yourself.



Reflect -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/4/2004 7:22:32)

Yup, just do a search on this forum and you will get plenty of threads.

http://www.frontpagewebmaster.com/searchpro.asp?phrase=FrontPage+VS.+Dreamweaver&author=&forumid=ALL&topicreply=both&message=body&timeframe=%3E&timefilter=-365&language=single&top=300&criteria=AND&minRank=0&sortMethod=r&submitbutton=+OK+

Take care,

Brian



dpf -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/4/2004 8:09:44)

probably the most agreed upon distinction would be this:
1.front page is much easier to learn than dreamweaver
2. learning dreamweaver is well worth it!
3. front page has a reputation of being amatuerish for several reasons:
a]used by a lot of one-time office amateurs whose work loks amatuerish, and
b]early versions of fp software deserved this rating - recent versions do not!
4.front page will sometimes (or often) add non-standard/microsoft specific tags and code that bloats the code although you can go to html view and modify it.

all in all, you are at a front page based forum so most of the people here have had good success using fp - i have - but dreamweaver probably represents the "gold standard". In the same vein, while adobe photo is probably the top graphics, many of us have been very successful with the cheaper/powerful paint shop pro.

do you have one or both? fp is cheaper and quicker to learn..and we are here to help



bobbrann -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 3:27:52)

Thanks to each of you for your replies. I have visited your threads and learned more in 60minutes from them
than I have discovered myself in the last 3 years of web development. Funny when I'm out here "all by myself"
it seems there's no place to turn and ask questions. I've had a copy of Dreamweaver but never opened it.
I use FP to do nearly everything... and it's 2000 so probably time to upgrade. This forum is loaded with info
but takes some getting used to. Now I've just opened Dreamweaver and I'm really digging it for how "HELP"ful
it is. I think it seems easier to use than FP and WAY WAY more features... right off the top... I can finally save
all my websites and passwords individually... I still can't believe FP didn't make provision for that basic feature.

I'm not a code grinder, just never got too interested in that, but I do have to go in and correct stuff that gets
put on pages that doesn't belong there.... the nbsp: stuff that shows up constantly and messes with the font
changes and placements... And FP not being able to read pages made in MS Word... that one really had me going.

I thought it was amazing the way Dreamweaver took a MSWord generated page, and made complete sense out of it
and made it useful and compatible and "fixable".

thanks again for all the answers and encourageing me to delve deeper and have a personal look at Dreamweaver.
I never would have installed it were it not for your suggestions. (how do you spell "complacent"?)



Giomanach -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 3:34:54)

We're all here to help. I myself support three of the big four WYSIWYG editors (FP, DW, and Go-Live). We all started out somewhere, and once you find here, you're laughing.

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And FP not being able to read pages made in MS Word...

That's strange. All M$ products are supposed to have inter-changable parts. YOu should be able to copy across no problem. Well, at least it worked in DW.

quote:

and it's 2000 so probably time to upgrade.

Read through the FP2003 forum first. Remember, M$ never sells a completed product, get FP2002 if you do upgrade.

quote:

thanks again for all the answers and encourageing me to delve deeper and have a personal look at Dreamweaver.

Quite Welcome. I just wish Spooky would open up another forum for Dreamweaver. Then we could separate out how many people use what........ Can't have everything I suppose[:D]

quote:

(how do you spell "complacent"?)

You just did[sm=tongue.gif]

Dan



BobbyDouglas -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 3:45:59)

It really depends what you are going to use it for....

If you do get into FP, FP 2003 is a lot better than the other releases... by far.



Sparton -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 17:17:55)

Hey All, FP was the first program I used, the lack of compatibility with free servers turned me over Dreamweaver 4 and I havn't looked back since. I just installed XP Professional and will be looking at Dreamweaver MX2004 shortly.



d a v e -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 17:35:26)

IMHO i *wouldn't* agree that FP is "much easier to learn than DW". it's certainly more familiar if you haven't touched anything outside of office apps, but then i think that DW is more intuitive e.g. the properties panel, publishing is like ftp, things are generally called what they are not what MS would like to think of them as. though it's good to see Dan (dpf Dan) pointing out that any initial extra effort is well worth it.
Incidentally, although i haven't used FP2003 (i've only 'looked' at the demo, poor IMO that there's no download) it's gratifying that they have <big euphemism>emulated</big euphemism> a load of things that have been in dreamweaver for a while, bit like Macromedia 'borrowing' a few things from adobe.

IMO opinion i would much rather use DW than FP but each to their own and as i say I haven't used FP2003 so can't comment thoroughly. I've been a DW user since version 1 :)

incidentally DW MX2004 has excellent css authoring and css display capabilities though for validating and checking in browsers there is no substitute for using the real things.



Spooky -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 17:59:39)

A lot of ill informed people pass judgement on FP based on what they have seen or heard about previous versions. A lot of that was deserved, but also, a lot was based on beginers using the 'tricks' like hover buttons based in java.
The latest version 2003, is a good tool to use.
The comparison could only be made by you and your needs.

Familiarity with Office may make FP more attactive.
Set up correctly, I believe they can both write good code.



Giomanach -> RE: Dreamweaver vs FrontPage (6/7/2004 18:51:18)

I agree with Spooky. In the past FP has had a bad name, but there has been a vast improvement with FP2003. I found it a bit more difficult to learn, but after a while, it's just as easy as previous versions.

I will quote myself:

quote:

The FrontPage Vs Dreamweaver debate is all a personal fight.

The only advice we can successfully give you is, use which ever you find easiest.

AFAIK, that is the best advice you will ever find on WYSIWYG editors.

I think the main reason why I find DW easier is b'cos I prefer to hand code, and DW has a reference built in. Very Handy, now if only M$ could do that to FP........I'll keep Dreaming[8D]

Dan



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