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bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	Back to the drawing board... - 6/10/2004 12:49:46 page: http://www.wassercoatings.com/template.asp stylesheet: http://www.wassercoatings.com/wasser.css I'm having trouble rebuilding our company website... working on the template now. The CSS is not responding for me as I had intended... Here are my issues: First... the main container for the page is a layer called "whole" it's only expanding about 80 pixels down (note the grey outline that cuts across behind the logo? It should be surrounding the whole page) Second, and this may be related to the above, my copyright statement is not showing up at all on the page... it should be the last piece of the puzzle inside "whole" - at the very bottom of that layer. Third, I'm having problems getting the "content" layer and the "navleft" layer to meet together at the bottom of the page... I've tried playing with height: 100% and bottom: 0px; but that leaves the bottom of all the layers at the bottom of the screen, and content spills over into nothingness... Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated. :) _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/10/2004 13:10:47 I moved the copyright text into a new layer, and positioned it inside the "content" layer, relative to the bottom... It's an acceptable variation... :) <edit> Though now the "whole" layer is nothing but a grey line at the top of the page, LOL < Message edited by bobby -- 6/10/2004 10:18:42 > _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to bobby)


c1sissy Posts: 5084 Joined: 7/20/2002 From: NJ Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 7:56:04 Hi Bobby, I just looked at your page. It looks fine right now. Are you still haveing problems with it? Also curious as to why you are using the z index. This tutorial is the only one that I have actually come across on the z index http://codepunk.hardwar.org.uk/acss07.htm. If you have any better ones to hand Out I would appreciate it. This might help me to understand it better, and maybe its what I need to fix my play page divs that won't behave back to burried under css lessons, heavy sigh _____________________________ Deb-aka-c4Ksissy high panjandurum and alpha female of the silverback tribe As decreed by Jesper 5-24-2003. The only stupid question is... the one that is never asked!! http://directory.css-styling.com http://fmsforum.com http://positioniseverything.net/ http://www.tanfa.co.uk/ (in reply to bobby)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 12:11:29 Hi Deb... thanks... z-index is a habit... I tend to place items on pages that "overlap" at times, so I've just gotten used to using it. <edit> z-index set's the z-axis position, or the "3D, vertical" position... layers upon layers... the lower the number, the further "back" the item is placed on the page... while higher numbered layers or images will be placed over the top. Can you see the little grey line at the top of the page? That's supposed to outline the entire thing, but it doesn't... All other layers are placed within that layer (called "whole") but it seems to be acting all by itself... no content, no expanding... collapses to a thin grey line rather than a 1px outline of the entire page... Also, I'm still having problems getting the left and right layers to meet at the bottom... < Message edited by bobby -- 6/11/2004 9:12:32 > _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to bobby)


Giomanach Posts: 6128 Joined: 11/19/2003 From: England Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 15:03:50 Bobby AFAICS, it's: 1. B'cos you're using absolute positioning 2. You haven't set a height] 3. Your using class elements, not IDs Recommendation number one: Get into the Stylesheet, make all of the DIV layer related styles # instead of . and make all divs <div id="style"> instead of class. Don't ask why, but DIVs seem to play better with id rather than class. If that doesn't work,, I'll see what I can do this Sunday Dan _____________________________ (in reply to bobby)


c1sissy Posts: 5084 Joined: 7/20/2002 From: NJ Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 15:08:33 quote: Can you see the little grey line at the top of the page? That's supposed to outline the entire thing, but it doesn't... Can you create a div that would hold everything and give it a grey border? Would that give you a bit more of what you are looking for? _____________________________ Deb-aka-c4Ksissy high panjandurum and alpha female of the silverback tribe As decreed by Jesper 5-24-2003. The only stupid question is... the one that is never asked!! http://directory.css-styling.com http://fmsforum.com http://positioniseverything.net/ http://www.tanfa.co.uk/ (in reply to bobby)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 16:22:43 Dan - Unless I'm confused, it shouldn't matter whether I'm using ID or Class... I've used this same method many times and it's worked fine until now... as long as everything is positioned on the page it has worked fine. Deb, that's exactly what I've done... the "whole" layer contains everything on the page... all other layers are inside it (in the HTML code) and I don't close that layer until right before the </body> tag... Mabye I'll try experimenting with some relative positioning... I've never had good luck with that in the past... _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to c1sissy)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 17:14:26 I tired using ID rather than Class... same result. Also, I removed all of the z-index's... same result... _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to bobby)


jaybee Posts: 14191 Joined: 10/7/2003 From: Berkshire, UK Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 17:47:05 I see no grey outline but I do see your copyright. And where do Whole go to? I can only find Content < Message edited by jaybee -- 6/11/2004 22:49:12 > _____________________________ If it ain't broke..... fix it until it is. GAWDS Now where did I put that Doctype? (in reply to bobby)


c1sissy Posts: 5084 Joined: 7/20/2002 From: NJ Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/11/2004 18:51:49 quote: And where do Whole go to? I can only find Content I agree with Jaybee on this one, I only see content, and I looked at it several times to see where the "whole" was. (did you fill it in?) _____________________________ Deb-aka-c4Ksissy high panjandurum and alpha female of the silverback tribe As decreed by Jesper 5-24-2003. The only stupid question is... the one that is never asked!! http://directory.css-styling.com http://fmsforum.com http://positioniseverything.net/ http://www.tanfa.co.uk/ (in reply to jaybee)


bobby Posts: 11394 Joined: 8/15/1969 From: Seattle WA USA Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/15/2004 16:38:47 actually, it was causing me so much headache that I got rid of it... a little grey outline wasn't worth the effort, LOL Now my only issue is getting the left and right div's to meet at the bottom... I'm thinking about setting a static size and place a scroll bar into the body content... that will only alienate about 20% of my visitors... Any helpful hints on how to get those to meet at the bottom of the page..? :) _____________________________ If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress? (in reply to c1sissy)


c1sissy Posts: 5084 Joined: 7/20/2002 From: NJ Status: offline	RE: Back to the drawing board... - 6/16/2004 4:01:23 quote: ORIGINAL: bobby actually, it was causing me so much headache that I got rid of it... a little grey outline wasn't worth the effort, LOL Now my only issue is getting the left and right div's to meet at the bottom... I'm thinking about setting a static size and place a scroll bar into the body content... that will only alienate about 20% of my visitors... Any helpful hints on how to get those to meet at the bottom of the page..? :) bobby, I did leave some infor for you on the post that you posted to me. I did get the grey outline to work and left the code in there for you. I hope you are making some better progress with this. I understand your frustration. _____________________________ Deb-aka-c4Ksissy high panjandurum and alpha female of the silverback tribe As decreed by Jesper 5-24-2003. The only stupid question is... the one that is never asked!! http://directory.css-styling.com http://fmsforum.com http://positioniseverything.net/ http://www.tanfa.co.uk/ (in reply to bobby)

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