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Giomanach

 

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 11:45:05   
You can still edit with FP, just means you'll have to use an FTP client to upload rather than FrontPage. Seeing as you don't use the FPSE, you *should* be fine. I'll look for a workaround.

Fp Photgallery needs FPSE though....let me see what I can do. Can you PM/Email me FTP login details so I can see the extent of the FPSE usage if at all?

Dan

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 12:00:02   
Publishing requires extensions. If you uninstall them you will have to FTP from then on.

Also while includes do not theoretically need extensions, in practice they do, as, without extensions, changes made to an include page will not update on the destination page until such time as the destination page is uploaded afresh.

As I know Gail uses includes widely and publishes her site, I think it best not to mess with the extensions.

As I said, I am looking at alternative ways of configuring the server so that custom error pages are possible for FP users. My hunch is that waiting would be best in this case.

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 12:25:11   
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I'll look for a workaround.
....let me see what I can do.


Dan, a virtual hug to you. You are very kind to offer such personalized help...and you've given so much of your time with me here.

I didn't foresee that this post would be so involved. I simply thought maybe someone could point out if I had typed the code wrong. I'm no coder! In fact, I thought it was such an itty bitty issue that I didn't even contact Katherine, as I usually do, until I read Nancy's post.

At this point, I'm going to leave it alone now and wait on Katherine. She is not only cognizant of my level of skills (or lack thereof :)), but is quite familiar with my site.

Thanks to all!

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 12:47:11   
BTW, looked a little deeper into this, and:

quote:

IndexIgnore .htaccess */.??* *~ *# */HEADER* */README* */_vti*

Is the problem. It tells the server to ignore anything but the FP created .htaccess. Go figure.

Gail - I will still look for a temp work around till Katherine finds a solution.

Katherine - If you don;t mind me asking, what program is used for the CPanel?

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 13:13:06   
if you are using extensions you cannot have custom error pages using .htaccess.
- I have custom error pages with FPE installed. That shouldn't be the problem.

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 13:20:07   
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Katherine - If you don;t mind me asking, what program is used for the CPanel?


It's a proprietory program created by Datapipe, where my servers are located. It's called EasyAdmin.

quote:

if you are using extensions you cannot have custom error pages using .htaccess.
- I have custom error pages with FPE installed. That shouldn't be the problem.


It is the problem if you use .htaccess to serve them. There are other ways though, and one of them is obviously whatever you are using.

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 13:36:17   
I have FPE installed, and inside my .htaccess I have:
ErrorDocument 403 /errorpgs/403.php
ErrorDocument 401 /errorpgs/401.php
ErrorDocument 500 /errorpgs/500.php
ErrorDocument 400 /errorpgs/400.php
ErrorDocument 404 /errorpgs/404.php


The last thing I would try is:

# -FrontPage-
ErrorDocument 400 error400.htm
ErrorDocument 401 error401.htm
ErrorDocument 403 error403.htm
ErrorDocument 404 error404.htm
ErrorDocument 500 error500.htm

IndexIgnore .htaccess */.??* *~ *# */HEADER* */README* */_vti*

<Limit GET POST>
order deny,allow
deny from all
allow from all
</Limit>
<Limit PUT DELETE>
order deny,allow
deny from all
</Limit>
AuthName www.digicamhelp.com
AuthUserFile /home/sites/www.digicamhelp.com/web/_vti_pvt/service.pwd
AuthGroupFile /home/sites/www.digicamhelp.com/web/_vti_pvt/service.grp


Then try:

# -FrontPage-

ErrorDocument 400 error400.htm
ErrorDocument 401 error401.htm
ErrorDocument 403 error403.htm
ErrorDocument 404 error404.htm
ErrorDocument 500 error500.htm

IndexIgnore .htaccess */.??* *~ *# */HEADER* */README* */_vti*

<Limit GET POST>
order deny,allow
deny from all
allow from all
</Limit>
<Limit PUT DELETE>
order deny,allow
deny from all
</Limit>
AuthName www.digicamhelp.com
AuthUserFile /home/sites/www.digicamhelp.com/web/_vti_pvt/service.pwd
AuthGroupFile /home/sites/www.digicamhelp.com/web/_vti_pvt/service.grp

And then:

ErrorDocument 400 error400.htm
ErrorDocument 401 error401.htm
ErrorDocument 403 error403.htm
ErrorDocument 404 error404.htm
ErrorDocument 500 error500.htm

# -FrontPage-

IndexIgnore .htaccess */.??* *~ *# */HEADER* */README* */_vti*

<Limit GET POST>
order deny,allow
deny from all
allow from all
</Limit>
<Limit PUT DELETE>
order deny,allow
deny from all
</Limit>
AuthName www.digicamhelp.com
AuthUserFile /home/sites/www.digicamhelp.com/web/_vti_pvt/service.pwd
AuthGroupFile /home/sites/www.digicamhelp.com/web/_vti_pvt/service.grp

Just change the path for the error pages.

< Message edited by BobbyDouglas -- 7/12/2004 13:43:02 >


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Giomanach

 

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 14:09:50   
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It's called EasyAdmin.

Dayum. Thats mainly created using CGI and P|ERL of the user interface. Some of them out there can be edited to take care of certain functions for you. I'm not al the savvy with CGI.

Bobby - IT will be dependant on the individual configuration of the servers, rather than the files you are using. My Dummies Guide states that you can't use .htaccess in conjunction with FPSE, one will cancel out the other. The .htaccess file created by FP strictly informs the server to use the FPSE for directory permissions et al

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BobbyDouglas

 

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/12/2004 16:13:15   
I have custom error pages using .htaccess while still running FPSE.

Here is some info about the server:
Operating system Linux
Kernel version 2.4.26-ow1
Apache version 1.3.31 (Unix)

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Giomanach

 

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/13/2004 6:33:42   
Sounds like a dumb question, but, what version of FPSE are installed on the servers? 2000 or 2002? Or another version...I may have stumbled across something that may help.

Dan

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/13/2004 7:36:03   
If you have stumbled accross something that can help then please post the link and I will let you know if it does.

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Giomanach

 

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/13/2004 7:47:26   
Can't find the link...had it on Google, but the web did state that you can only use .htaccess with FPSE if you are using FPE2000. Back when they were released htaccess wasn't so widely used..therefore M$ didn't foresee it doing what it does now. And with the FPE2002 out, you can't mix and match, it's one or the other with FPE2002, both with FPE2000

Does that make any sense?

Dan

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/13/2004 7:57:07   
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you can only use .htaccess with FPSE if you are using FPE2000. Back


If this is true, where does it leave me? And why does ONE of my custom pages show but not the other four?

gail

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Giomanach

 

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RE: Custom error pages & .htaccess problem - 7/13/2004 8:02:00   
Gail

The one I found only shows b'cos I browsed directly too it deliberatley. Technically, if the user types in:

http://www.digicamhelp.com/index.asp (I know that doesn't exist)

That address should still appear in the address bar, but they get the 404 File Not Found error page, as set by you or the host (Katherine).

Me thinks you are on FPE2002, I'll keep looking for a workaround, you just go relax, and leave it to me and Katherine:)

Dan

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