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BroadbandMan -> The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/16/2004 0:26:21)

I've about made myself insane looking for any kind of collection or list that exists of the mythical free directories and search engines. Every time I attempt a search for these mythical creatures I get fooled and taken off track by some fake free bait and switch seo "guru". Obviously being a small business owner I don't have the time to hunt through bogus search listings for days at a time. I realize at some point I'm going to have to pay for inclusion for some engines. Only problem is my marketing money is about a month behind schedule due to vendor fees and other business expenses. Basically "waiting" to pay to get into directories seems idiotic when I could be hunting up some of my own PageRank in the meantime. If indeed any sites/engines that are truly free (I don't care how small) they must be the best kept secrets on the net. I'll join a club, learn a secret handshake, heck I might even be talked into doing a gang initiation hit if ONLY someone will whisper these directory/engine location secrets my way....Thanks for listening to my rant, I'm gonna go search some more......... if I can just stop getting dizzy...... and passing ouuuuuuuuuut........................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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BroadbandMan -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/16/2004 4:59:22)

ah hah, I've found some magic keywords and stumbled upon a few decent directories. Joeant.com, Tatet.com, Botonic.com, and Jayde.com are enough to keep me busy for tonght. If anyone knows of anymore by all means let me know! I hope somone out there finds these four as useful as I have.

- Colin



jaybee -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/16/2004 5:29:38)

No secret I'm afraid. Just exactly what you've been doing... and what I did... and what others do.

I made a note of the big ones and then went hunting for their submission pages. Some of them want you to pay. As my first one started out as a hobby site there was no way I was paying. I just went for the freebies.

I have number one ranking now on a search but that's for my search terms. Yours may be more popular and therefore harder to get to the top.

Go for DMOZ, Alta Vista, Yahoo and Zeal. Those are the ones I hit. Zeal you have to sign on and pass a test, or at least, you did when I first went through them. Submit and then wait, they can take a while. Make sure your meta description is good. Don't repeat the name of the site in it though. Editors of the human based engines will only change it.

Then concentrate on getting links from other sites. Offer the webmasters a reciprocal deal.

And Good Luck.



BroadbandMan -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/16/2004 5:34:42)

Ahh thanks Jaybee, your always ontop of things! I certainly appreciate all the help you provide in here. Perhaps one day I'll be able to offer a word of advice your way. One can only hope!

Thanks again
-C.



dpf -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/16/2004 9:24:50)

Colin: In starting your business, you might give some thought to Google adsense. basically, you bid to be ranked on the right hand side for paid ads..the bid is unigue to a particular keyword expression you want. Ultimately, you are NOT PAYING the bid price to be listed there- you only pay it when someone clicks on it to go to your site. so it is sort of like: "of the people who have serached on this keyword phrase, how much would you pay to have them click to go to your site? 10cents? 50 cents/ $1.00?"

One of the nice features for a small budget is that you cant set a daily cap so that you dont get suprises and exceed your budget. When I first tried it, I was chicken and set that daily cap at $1.00 so it couldnt exceed $30 month.

Good luck
As to Search Engines, focus on Yahoo, Inktomi, Google.



cooper -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/16/2004 13:56:13)

Colin,

I wrote a simple tutorial on search engine prep and submission. Take a look at:

http://www.toolsandtemplates.com/advice_promote_site.htm

The tutorial is four pages long. The last page has links to the submission pages for a number of engines and directories.



jaybee -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/17/2004 16:32:07)

Cooper,

Great tutorial. I shall bookmark it for future questions. [:D]

Any reason why you don't have Zeal in your list? They're the ones that got my site onto MSN and a few others.



BroadbandMan -> RE: The Myth of the "free" directory and search engines... (7/17/2004 22:57:30)

Cooper what a wonderful list, I've been so busy submitting I haven't had the time to get in here and thank you! I'll be sure to keep this handy nugget of search engine info around. Thanks again Coop!



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