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BostonHOG

 

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Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 12:39:41   
Im Using WS-FTP Pro and Front Page.. i cant figure out the dang Navigation for my Java applet......
it keeps opening everything up in new windows im trying to use Shared Borders.. i clicked the Option on the set up for Navigation..
ive tried Changing the Tags in the Nav that didnt work.. and i missing target tags in my Pages.. please Help what am i doing Wrong???????
Where can i go to Find more detailed Info on Putting Java Nav in Shared borders...


Im new to Webpage Design I just riecently took over the Bostonhog website . see page for Details its temporarily at http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/bostonhog
It will eventually be at bostonhog.com when Harley Davidson/Buell of boston gets their New Webpage and Server Hosting...
My page
http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/bostonhog

old Hog page
http://www.bostonhog.com
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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 12:46:47   
Have you tried uploading it using Front Pages Publish function?

I'm not possitive, but I believe shared borders required FP extensions on the server... and that means that you cant use FTP to upload, you have to use File > Publish...

Not possitive, but could be..?

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BostonHOG

 

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 12:50:37   
Does Angelfire Support it?
checking now... im on Yahoo as jeff_barbiaux and MSN ans jambcarpentry

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 13:00:23   
I don't recall if Agelfire supports FP extensions or not... your account info settings should tell you.

Many free hosts will give you an option of activating FP extn's if you want them, or leave them off if you don't...

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BostonHOG

 

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 13:11:05   
Not Free i paid for Minimum subscription so i could get rid of their adds.. heh i have 75mb of space and 5 gb of bandwidth and yes i just found it it does support Front page just activated it.. .. but i still have to set my nav tags correctly as it sits i have this
{Home,http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/bostonhog/index.html/,self}
this one opens a separate page
{Sponsoring Dealer,http://www.bostonharley.com,blank}

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BostonHOG

 

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 13:15:27   
Uploading now from Front page.. should this fix it?

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Larry M.

 

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 15:58:04   
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Uploading now from Front page. should this fix it?


BostonHOG,

Unless you've corrupted the FrontPage extensions by using WSFTP previously, which is a distinct possibility.

FrontPage has been designed to publish from within the program. Period. End of story. Make live server changes and publish via FTP at your own risk - it's only a matter of time before the site hoses you (and your web client).

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 16:07:34   
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Make live server changes at your own risk - it's only a matter of time before the site hoses you (and your web client).


Care to elaborate on that part?

As in, I have always worked live on my site, it is just my prefered method.

What issues are there from that, cos I have never noticed any issues.

Thanks in advance. =]

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 19:22:08   
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ORIGINAL: Taz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Larry M.

Make live server changes at your own risk - it's only a matter of time before the site hoses you (and your web client).


Care to elaborate on that part?

As in, I have always worked live on my site, it is just my prefered method.

What issues are there from that, cos I have never noticed any issues.

Thanks in advance. =]



The issue is that if you make your changes live and something happens and you lose your site on your host server, you don't have a backup copy that is up to date.

Unless of course you publish a copy back to your hard drive after making the changes.

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 19:34:38   
I like walking that dangerous line between genius & disaster, gives me an edge.

(Who am I kidding!)

Mistakes were meant to happen, it's how we learn. :)

Cheers for the info. =]

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 20:40:37   
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The issue is that if you make your changes live and something happens and you lose your site on your host server, you don't have a backup copy that is up to date


Taz,

Swirl is on target here and it would seem that maybe you've seen the light.

To reinforce the point, I'll pass on my particular situation. I have (1) my local files, (2) my CD burner backup copy (after every change) and, of course, (3) the server files. Redundancy equals sleep tight tonite. My tag line says it all.

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/27/2004 21:38:34   
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maybe you've seen the light.

Nahh, I will carry on as I have done where my site is concerned, in nearly 2 years I have not made that many screw ups where I have lost stuff or b0rk stuff that I couldn't fix or recreate, & even when I did it just encouraged me to do it again but better.

If I went the route you do I would need to buy out Sony so I could have enough CD's available, as I am constantly hooked up to my site & toying with things. I do realize it isn't the best practice or the safest or even well advised, but I got this far with it. I would be spending more time burning CD's than I would working & learning. & it would seriously interrupt my flow worrying over stuff that I never did before. I sleep sound at night knowing that any mistakes made the day before can be sorted out the next day, gives me summin to get out of bed for. :)

So please feel free to point & laugh when the wet gooey stuff hits the fan one day.
You may say "I told you so!" & I will just smile & take it with good grace.:)
Cheers though for the heads up/advice.

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/28/2004 3:43:35   
cd-rw!

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/28/2004 3:57:02   
"I would be spending more time burning CD's than I would working & learning. "

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/28/2004 3:59:42   
if you have a memory stick or considered buying one then it's even easier - you can just leave it in your machine and backup to it (assuming your site is less than the capacity available). at least you could back up after every MAJOR change ;)

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/28/2004 4:48:14   
I run 425mb of online space. Spread over 2 domains/sites on 2 seperate servers, 3 forums on 3 seperate databases = my website

Putting it anywhere other than where it is would confuse the heck out of me hehehehe.

As I said, I am comforable doing it how I do it. Then again I am odd like that.

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/28/2004 5:53:30   
fair enough :)

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/28/2004 8:55:55   
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If I went the route you do I would need to buy out Sony so I could have enough CD's available


Taz,

A point of clarification: by "every change" I mean every design session. I keep a CD-R in drive E, rename the file to current date (mysite 8-28-04), drag and drop to the CD-R, then rename file to the original (mysite). My sites typically run in the 10-20 mb range, so Imation is not getting rich off me.

While I'm not paranoid, I am realistic: it's not if "the wet gooey stuff hits the fan", it's when.

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/31/2004 10:08:34   
yes i have it backed up on CD-RW:)

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RE: Need Suggestions where to go... - 8/31/2004 10:59:35   
Shared borders behave the same with or without server extensions. The issue is not FrontPag here. The issue is the java applet.

I'm seeing code like the following in the paramaters of the applet.

{||Group Riding,http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/bostonhog/groupriding.html/,self}

I don't know for sure, but replacing "self" with "_self" or "top" or possibly "_top" may be the fix. I'm sure the documentation included with that applet would have some explanation of that. You apparently got the applet here. http://www.apycom.com

That would be where to look on documentation on that product.

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