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Scotty
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Two style sheets for palm pilots etc. - 10/2/2004 1:22:57
Reading the thread started by Avick regarding the problems getting IE and Mozilla to look the same. The fix being use two style sheets, one your master and the other the IE fixes.
Can you use something like this to accomodate palm pilots and the like? I understand a lot of these hand helds only see 120 pixels wide and some don't have horizontal scroll.
On a related note, I tried the test Palm Pilot mention in another thread and noticed that drop menus don't work. Is that pretty standard in hand helds?
Regards, Scotty
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RE: Two style sheets for palm pilots etc. - 10/2/2004 3:13:03
Hi Scotty, ALA has some articles on the palm pilot. You might find some information over there. Also Caz seems to have an interest in this so she might have some more information for you on this subject.
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RE: Two style sheets for palm pilots etc. - 10/2/2004 6:33:06
My interest comes from a sideways view on accessibility, which is pretty important with the miniscule size of handheld screens
This ALA article was all I could find about the subject at the time, but it is quite thorough.
About navigation, this is directly from the article linked above,
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The top of the page is prime real estate; you do not want the reader to get bored scrolling to the content. Therefore, minimize the navigation and decoration at the top. A logo and one or two small navigational elements, such as a short navigation list, breadcrumbs, or a search input, should be enough. Long navigation lists, advertisements, and other marginal content should go after the main text. For most layout schemes, this corresponds to putting it in the right sidebar (as opposed to the left) for desktop layouts. A List Apart’s XHTML structure is excellent in this respect.
Inessential navigational elements should be hidden using display: none. For example, if you are using dynamic drop-down menus across the top, make the menu’s title a link to that section of your website and hide the menu of subsection links. This makes the navigation less top-heavy, and if your site is well-organized, shouldn’t cause much navigational difficulty.
A point made earlier on is that it is best to use percentages for sizing, rather than pixels.
D'you know, I don't even have one of these things
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Scotty
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RE: Two style sheets for palm pilots etc. - 10/2/2004 23:25:13
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D'you know, I don't even have one of these things
Carol
Either do I. Don't have a digital camera, can't watch dvd cause don't have that either, rabbit ears on our 13" tv (which we bought for home show exhibits), and dropped the cell phone awhile back, so I can't see the display, thus everything is dialed from (faulty) memory.
Still... I'm fascinated by the concepts needed to design a clean site that's usable by (nearly) everyone.
My feeling is that over the next couple of years, we'll see more Palm Pilot type devices as well as "text mode browser feeds fed into speaking machines". Enough that commercial web sites will need to be redesigned to accommodate this phenomena.
So my current question is...is there a method to emulate the "text mode browser feeds fed into speaking machines" without spending a lot of money?
Regards, Scotty
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